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    Vinluvskwan Guest

    Default Laymen's medical info. on Sasha' injury

    sportsmedicine.about.com/...a/hip3.htm

    This is even more painful than a strained ligament as the bone is almost affected. The iliac crest is a bony protusion on the pelvis, almost at your side where your hips meet your torso, just above the crotch level.

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    Ouch.

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    Honestly, I'm not too suprised on Sasha's injury, but hip? a little suprised. However from what this description, it made sense to me and confirmed what I heard.....It was not a secret among South Cal rinks that Sasha went through a heavy diet early on in the season to prepare for Olympics season (some of top rusian skater was mentioned in as example in disscutions)......which according to some coaches soon or late could cause the serious injury in joint earea....the extensive water lose in these joint earea in short time period due to the diet would cause bones directly contact/frictiion to each other, thus the injury occures.

    Don't know too much of medical term in english. Is this the same injury that Michelle suffered?

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    Yikes. Poor Sasha. I hope this heals quickly, but it sounds pretty darned serious.

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    Is this the same injury that Michelle suffered?
    No it is not the same injury as Michelle. Michelle's a muscular injury, which from every way it sounds, is much better than a bone injury that Sasha is suffering. It may well be that both skaters are feeling equally intense level of pain, but I'd say Michelle's injury is a lot less worrisome.

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    mzheng - what's "heavy diet"? sasha is already more than skinny why would she want to participate in this heavy diet? anyway, i hope both Michelle and her can recover soon.

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    mzheng - what's "heavy diet"? sasha is already more than skinny why would she want to participate in this heavy diet? anyway, i hope both Michelle and her can recover soon.
    I think she may mean like a very strict diet. She talked about how harmful the loss of water weight in that short amount of time can be, so I think that's what she is referring too.

    With that being said, gosh. These poor ladies. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.

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    Honestly, I'm not too suprised on Sasha's injury, but hip? a little suprised. However from what this description, it made sense to me and confirmed what I heard.....It was not a secret among South Cal rinks that Sasha went through a
    heavy diet early on in the season to prepare for Olympics season (some of top rusian skater was mentioned in as example in disscutions)......which according to some coaches soon or late could cause the serious injury in joint earea....the extensive water lose in these joint earea in short time period would cause bones directly contact/frictiion to each other, thus the injury occures.
    Wow I don't understand why she would want to go on such a diet. You need muscle to stay strong. I guess maybe she felt that being lighter would help with the jumps which I guess it does for the most part. It also helps to have some strong muscles. It seems like you might lose muscle mass on such a diet.

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    When I heard Sasha's diet I guessed she might prepear herself for trainning quad......It is really a very thin line here, very delicate balance.....But I really diddn't expect her hip injury, just the other day, we were talking how Sash is not as wide as Michelle, the straining put on Michelle's hip will not be on Sasha....poor girls.

    Here is hope to both of them a quick recovery.

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    Horrible, horrible, horrible. Another skater needing another 7-12 days off the ice in this incredibly important season.

    And this quote was especially scary:

    It's important that the athlete not return to quickly to activity. If he still has pain or tenderness, he is liable to compensate by altering his gait and technique. The result is another injury to another body part.
    I wonder if she will be able to compete in only three weeks, given the scenario in that article.

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    If this injury is so serious, I'm surprised she's only being advised to lay off triple jumps for a week. Maybe it's so the injury doesn't get irritated to the point of becoming serious. We have no way of knowing how serious it is...I just hope she, and Michelle and Fumie all recover quickly!

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    Is anyone even sure that Sasha's injury is a hip pointer, much less a very serious one? I know that she has a bruise on that part of her hip -- but isn't the rest just speculation? The USFS article quotes her doctor as advising "no triple jumps for a week" -- not complete cessation of activity on and/or off the ice. Unless some have other sources of information than what I have read in the several articles out about this, I wouldn't assume the worst case scenario.

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    They named the bone that was injured in the USFSA.org article.

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    A Slam article out there is reporting a muscle injury not a bone injury. The information out there is really different and confusing and I don't know how we'll ever really know what her injury is.

    A week off the ice doesn't sound too serious though.

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    They named the bone that was injured in the USFSA.org article.
    I knew that it was the iliac crest that was involved -- I just didn't realize that all contact bruises to that bone were considered to be "hip pointers" -- or that all of them produced the same/similar severity and duration of symptoms. Again, I don't think people need to assume the worst. I'm sure it is very painful now, but unless there are complications (or more to the injury than is being revealed), I think it likely that Sasha will be back in full training mode again quite soon.

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    hmm the description seemed more serious to me perhaps b/c they described some things in a little more detail i think than michelle's press release. but then it can't be that serious if she's told to just lay off triples for a week...? i mean if she was told to stay off the ice for a month or something, then WOA, serious problem

    and also, isn't michelle's injury involving the ligaments of the hip? i thought that was the case, not the muscle. ligaments attach bones to bones. tendons attach muscles to bones. sorry to get all academic-technical-ish, but i just learned about these things in anatomy

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    for someone as thin as Sasha, I'm not surprised that she would have some sort of hip related injury relating to a fall. . Granted, the first thing that everyone sees when they view a picture of Sasha is that she is ALL muscle. She is obviously a strong woman but with so little body fat and the intense diet that mzheng mentioned, it can only take one fall for someone with Sasha's physique to sustain an injury. I wish her the best.

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    Ouch.
    My thoughts exactly.

    I banged the outside of my elbow right on the bone today and it HURT. I can only imagine how much that would hurt falling on it on hard ice. ouch.

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    I can't find anything that says that Sasha has a hip pointer injury. The USFSA press release says that she has a "one-inch laceration [i.e., a cut]" that goes across the area where the iliac crest is. I can't find any evidence that this is the same injury as the one described in the article.

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    Default Hey atherae, Sasha's iliac crest injury...

    is also termed hip pointer injury. One way or another, they both refer to the iliac crest, a bony protrusion (something sticking out) on the pelvic bone (right on your side, it's what you first feel when you swivel/shake your hip to one side. It's the bone that is sticking out of the side to which your hip/pelvis is turned out/shaken.

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