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    All I can say about Mao is WOW!!!! Thought her component scores were way too low, though. I love her, hope she goes to worlds!
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    New drinking game: take a shot every time Tara says the word "pressure."

    Ugh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasha View Post
    All I can say about Mao is WOW!!!! Thought her component scores were way too low, though. I love her, hope she goes to worlds!
    And the only reason Lipnitskaia just went into the lead over Mao was because of the PCS. How does that beat Mao's? I really despise this judging!
    It's a joke. Yet, we knew after the team event Lipnitskaia would continue to be over marked.
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    No way should this Adelina be ahead of Mao in free skate, and she should be behind Carolina. SWR still exists. Home job! And by the way, Izzy, add another drink for every time Tara talks about herself or giggles. UGH!

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    Really? Sotnikova's program was a 149? Those PCS scores, really?!?

    Home cooking at it's finest! I'm utterly disgusted!
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    totally agree, Adelina should be 3rd.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooke View Post
    Really? Sotnikova's program was a 149? Those PCS scores, really?!?

    Home cooking at it's finest! I'm utterly disgusted!

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    Disgusted!!!

    The boldness of this farce is astounding! Russia was so desperate and made sure Yuna, Carolina, and possibly Gracie got screwed out of their rightful places!
    I feel bad for Sotnikova as well. Everyone outside of Russia knows she did not win. It was gifted to her.
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    Sotnikova was energetic, strong, commendable, but not a complete skater. I fear I will never be allowed back in Russia again.
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    To the people of Korea: At one point, I had doubts regarding Yu-Na Kim - not after today. She was superb, elegant, charming. Never a wilt.

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    Never was a Carolina fan, but I actually thought she deserved the gold; Yuna silver, Adelina bronze. Yuna left me flat.
    Adelina sp scores were beefed up also, so the fix was in before the long.
    No way should she have been ahead of Mao, Carolina or Yuna in the free.
    Disgusted also!

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    Wow oh wow, leave it to Ladies' FS for the drama to begin. This definitely will be analyzed inside out for years to come. I'll have to watch this again during the NBC broadcast with Sandra & Scott, was able to watch the NBCSN live coverage but wanted to mute Tara & Johnny's commentating, get a room already....But yeah, this was definitely an upset of all upsets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasha View Post
    All I can say about Mao is WOW!!!! Thought her component scores were way too low, though. I love her, hope she goes to worlds!
    Watching her come back like that after her SP disaster brought tears to my eyes to match those from Jeremy Abbott's SP. I just felt like reaching into the TV screen and giving her a hug.
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    Mao was just amazing! Brought tears to my eyes. I'm so glad that her last Olympic memory will be of skating an amazing long program like that. And of course I'm such a sucker for the triple axel.
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    Yeh. I'm really glad the New Judging System addressed all those unfairness issues of the 6.0 system (cough, cough.....)

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    Mao did amazing & I almost cried when she finished & seen her reaction. If only she hadn't messed up in the short program. I've never been a Yuna Kim fan so it didn't bother me a bit when she got beat by the Russian.

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    whether you're a fan of YuNa's or not, Sotnikova's LP did not beat Kostner's, Mao's or Kim's. being a fan has nothing to do with the facts. that she won by that margin all but proves the fixing.

    i don't wish this new "champion" any harm, but i may need to write off the next 4 years of ladies skating as called in already. there is no way anyone can beat these scores when the reality is she has a ton of improving to do & is being rewarded regardless. Carolina, Mao & YuNa were 1, 2 & 3 in that freeskate - doesn't even matter to me which order. comparing many component scores among the top 10 & there's not a lot of comparison when the very best are involved. what a farce!~
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    I am stunned with the Ladies Long program result. I don't understand how Adelina's LP is worth 149.95 points? Her short program is overmarked too (in my opinion). Her skating was frantic, hurriedly doing each element. each move is unfinished. her skating style reminded me of Irina Slutskaya and Plushenko. Jump here...spin...jump...spin...hurry up...jump again....hurry up again...nothing else but jump & jump & spin here and there.

    In my opinion, Kim Yu Na skated beautifully. She deserve the Second Olympic Gold. Carolina Kostner was divine and I am very happy that she medaled the 3rd time around. Bitter sweet feeling for Mao. She skated the best in that LP. My heart goes to her. I wish she will win the World's this year.

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    Whether you think it was rigged or not, this does not look good. That judge should not have been on the panel given the history.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/judge-...111245619.html

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    If Adelina had been an American she would have been scored in 7 or 8th place. And that is where she belonged.

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    Watched NBC tonight, and Bob Costas put the question to Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir about Adelina's controversial win. They said it was because of her high technical content. landing her jumps and putting so many of them in the bonus half of the program. They admitted that she isn't so great as an artist, and Tara said it was the first time she had ever seen Adelina have two programs that were pretty clean. Basically, she skated the best she ever had. My brother also mentioned that the first story on a Fox program he was watching was the controversy about the ladies' results, and Brian Boitano was quoted as saying that the judges and their scores should not be anonymous. ITA. I think the judges tend to give high component marks to some skaters who have high technical content. COP hasn't done anything to make viewers happier about the results, and unhappy viwers tend to stop watching. That said, I loved the long programs of Mao, Yuna, and Carolina, which made up for the fact that I didn't enjoy the winner's program.

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    ITA it was rigged. How does Adelina end up in virtual tie with Kostner and Kim in the short program when they had much more difficult jump combinations and beautiful artistry and spins, footwork etc? They were clearly stacking the deck for her in case she pulled her usual tank in the long program. That way she could still pull off a medal for mother Russia.
    The long program was just as bad. Her artistry was extremely weak and if she hadn't land the jumps that program would've been a total snoozefest. She can't do anything that Mao or Kim can't do yet still pulls off those ridiculous technical scores. Her component scores were even more of a joke.
    It's funny how Scott mentioned before the competition that he didn't know how well the American ladies would do because the international judges "don't know them very well" yet Adelina can EASILY pull off gold when she wasn't even in the conversation before. Funny how the only skaters who seem to "come out of nowhere to win gold" always seem to be Russian/Soviet.
    Judges that get caught cheating should be banned for life. Period.
    And Johnny and Tara should be ashamed of themselves.
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    All the talk about her program being more difficult is ridiculous.She had the 3rd highest component score in the short program, LOL what a joke! Even if you kept her tech scores the same, her component scores were so inflated. Subtract 3 pts from the components in the short, and 6 pts from the components in the free, and her score would have been 215.59, third place, which is where I think she should have been.

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    The judging in skating has always been biased. I can remember when Lithuanian ice dancer Povilas Vanagas held a press conference after the 2002 games and had the guts to come right out and say that the judging was unfair, and that as soon as he was who was on the panel of judges for his event, he knew where he and his wife, Margarita Drobiazko would place in it. That year quite a lot of the ice dancers signed a petition complaining about the poor quality of judging. I can also remember looking at the countries on the panel of judges, knowing that if a judge from Russia and four judges from other Communist countries were on that panel, a US skater would get undeservedly low scores. I long ago learned to enjoy the performances and try not to get too upset about the outcomes. At least tonight I will get to see the Gala, where judging won't be involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasha View Post
    All the talk about her program being more difficult is ridiculous.She had the 3rd highest component score in the short program, LOL what a joke! Even if you kept her tech scores the same, her component scores were so inflated. Subtract 3 pts from the components in the short, and 6 pts from the components in the free, and her score would have been 215.59, third place, which is where I think she should have been.
    I would have been fine with third overall as well. I think I would've had her 4th in the short behind Yuna, Carolina, and Gracie. I know Gracie was leaning in the air on her triple Lutz and had a somewhat shaky landing on her double axel, but I don't care. A triple Lutz/triple toe combination is MUCH more difficult than a triple toe/triple toe and the scores just didn't reflect that at all.
    I think her long program was 4th best behind Mao, Kim, and Carolina.
    Third overall is also IMO where she belonged. You could argue lower, but definitely not higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glassware Shar View Post
    The judging in skating has always been biased. I can remember when Lithuanian ice dancer Povilas Vanagas held a press conference after the 2002 games and had the guts to come right out and say that the judging was unfair, and that as soon as he was who was on the panel of judges for his event, he knew where he and his wife, Margarita Drobiazko would place in it. That year quite a lot of the ice dancers signed a petition complaining about the poor quality of judging. I can also remember looking at the countries on the panel of judges, knowing that if a judge from Russia and four judges from other Communist countries were on that panel, a US skater would get undeservedly low scores. I long ago learned to enjoy the performances and try not to get too upset about the outcomes. At least tonight I will get to see the Gala, where judging won't be involved.
    I wish I had the ability to do this, but I just can't. I simply cannot stand to see cheating like this. It has basically ruined the entire skating competition for me. I probably won't even watch the gala because when I see Adelina announced as gold medalist it will just make my skin crawl LOL.
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