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    Gay Marriage Bill Defeated in New Jersey Senate

    Cameras allowed in same-sex marriage trial
    A California judge ruled Wednesday to allow cameras in a federal courtroom to document a challenge to Proposition 8, a measure banning same-sex marriage.

    The courtroom footage will not be streamed live, but will be uploaded on the Web site YouTube daily, CNN affiliate KGO reported.
    Mark Kirk: I'm Not Gay
    Republican primary frontrunner for Senate Mark Kirk today denied rumors advanced in political attack ads that he was a homosexual.

    Speaking at the Union League Club concerning his recently completed Naval Reserve duty in Afghanistan, Kirk said simply: "No, it's not true."

    To which he added that he's getting tremendous support from his constituents concerning the issue.

    Kirk's sexuality has been a topic of political conversation since primary challenger Andy Martin suggested Kirk was gay in a radio ad last week.
    Americans’ Role Seen in Uganda Anti-Gay Push
    Last March, three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about “curing” homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States, arrived here in Uganda’s capital to give a series of talks.

    The theme of the event, according to Stephen Langa, its Ugandan organizer, was “the gay agenda — that whole hidden and dark agenda” — and the threat homosexuals posed to Bible-based values and the traditional African family.

    For three days, according to participants and audio recordings, thousands of Ugandans, including police officers, teachers and national politicians, listened raptly to the Americans, who were presented as experts on homosexuality. The visitors discussed how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how “the gay movement is an evil institution” whose goal is “to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”

    Now the three Americans are finding themselves on the defensive, saying they had no intention of helping stoke the kind of anger that could lead to what came next: a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior.

    One month after the conference, a previously unknown Ugandan politician, who boasts of having evangelical friends in the American government, introduced the Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009, which threatens to hang homosexuals, and, as a result, has put Uganda on a collision course with Western nations.

    Donor countries, including the United States, are demanding that Uganda’s government drop the proposed law, saying it violates human rights, though Uganda’s minister of ethics and integrity (who previously tried to ban miniskirts) recently said, “Homosexuals can forget about human rights.”

    The Ugandan government, facing the prospect of losing millions in foreign aid, is now indicating that it will back down, slightly, and change the death penalty provision to life in prison for some homosexuals. But the battle is far from over.

    Instead, Uganda seems to have become a far-flung front line in the American culture wars, with American groups on both sides, the Christian right and gay activists, pouring in support and money as they get involved in the broader debate over homosexuality in Africa.

    “It’s a fight for their lives,” said Mai Kiang, a director at the Astraea Lesbian Foundation for Justice, a New York-based group that has channeled nearly $75,000 to Ugandan gay rights activists and expects that amount to grow.

    The three Americans who spoke at the conference — Scott Lively, a missionary who has written several books against homosexuality, including “7 Steps to Recruit-Proof Your Child”; Caleb Lee Brundidge, a self-described former gay man who leads “healing seminars”; and Don Schmierer, a board member of Exodus International, whose mission is “mobilizing the body of Christ to minister grace and truth to a world impacted by homosexuality” — are now trying to distance themselves from the bill.

    “I feel duped,” Mr. Schmierer said, arguing that he had been invited to speak on “parenting skills” for families with gay children. He acknowledged telling audiences how homosexuals could be converted into heterosexuals, but he said he had no idea some Ugandans were contemplating the death penalty for homosexuality.

    “That’s horrible, absolutely horrible,” he said. “Some of the nicest people I have ever met are gay people.”

    Mr. Lively and Mr. Brundidge have made similar remarks in interviews or statements issued by their organizations. But the Ugandan organizers of the conference admit helping draft the bill, and Mr. Lively has acknowledged meeting with Ugandan lawmakers to discuss it. He even wrote on his blog in March that someone had likened their campaign to “a nuclear bomb against the gay agenda in Uganda.” Later, when confronted with criticism, Mr. Lively said he was very disappointed that the legislation was so harsh.

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    Portugal Parliament Votes to Permit Gay Marriage
    Portugal's parliament passed a bill Friday that would make the predominantly Catholic nation the sixth in Europe to permit gay marriage.

    Conservative President Anibal Cavaco Silva is thought unlikely to veto the Socialist government's bill, which won the support of all left-of-center parties. His ratification would allow the first gay marriage ceremonies to take place in April — a month before Pope Benedict XVI is due on an official visit to Portugal.

    Right-of-center parties opposed the change and sought a national referendum on the issue, but their proposal was rejected and the government's bill was passed by 125 votes to 99.

  3. #53


    Lawyers for Prop. 8 file high court appeal to ban YouTube video of trial
    Reporting from Washington - The lawyers defending California's Proposition 8 and its ban on same-sex marriage urged the U.S. Supreme Court today to block video coverage of next week's trial in San Francisco.

    They filed an emergency appeal with Justice Anthony M. Kennedy and argued that their client's right to a fair trial would be jeopardized if each day's proceedings were put on YouTube.

    The trial "has the potential to become a media circus," wrote attorney Charles Cooper. "The record is already replete with evidence showing that any publicizing of support for Prop. 8 has inevitably led to harassment, economic reprisal, threats, and even physical violence. In this atmosphere, witnesses are understandably quite distressed at the prospect of their testimony being broadcast worldwide on YouTube."
    First of all, Prop 8 is already a media circus.
    Second of all, what do Prop 8 supporters have to hide?
    Third of all, Prop 8 supporters were more than happy to have the public involved when it came to taking other people's rights away.
    Fourth of all,
    any publicizing of support for Prop. 8 has inevitably led to harassment, economic reprisal, threats, and even physical violence.
    You mean they might be treated the way they treat gays? Baaaaawwwwww!!! Or are they afraid that their not-so-Christian activities might get out, like Carrie Prejean?

    Theodore B. Olson: The Conservative Case for Gay Marriage

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    Default Prop 8

    Quote Originally Posted by RA5CViggie View Post

    This kills me.

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    -Peggy Fleming describing Michelle after her LP at Nationals 1998

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    Okay, so the pro-gay side (that is, the anti-prop 8 side) would be okay with broadcasting the trial, so their argument would be known as it unfolds - maybe "in near-real time"?

    And the anti-gay side wants to suppress the broadcasting, which will have the effect of blocking public learning of their argument in favor of keeping prop 8 in effect. Right?

    I should think the anti-gay folks would like for their argument to be known, so people can be persuaded by it. Unless they fear it is unpersuasive.

    But to make it easier for MKFers, here's an enactment of the case:

    Characters: Pro-Gay (PG); Anti-Gay(AG).

    Opening arguments:

    PG: Gay is really quite normal.
    AG: Ain't neither!
    PG: Is so!
    AG: Ain't neither!
    PG: Is so!
    AG: Ain't neither!


    AG: Gay is naughty.
    PG: Ain't neither!
    AG: Is so!
    PG: Ain't neither!
    AG: Is so!
    PG: Ain't neither!

    Sic transit gloria Californi

  7. #57


    Quote Originally Posted by JerryStopher View Post
    Okay, so the pro-gay side (that is, the anti-prop 8 side) would be okay with broadcasting the trial, so their argument would be known as it unfolds - maybe "in near-real time"?

    And the anti-gay side wants to suppress the broadcasting, which will have the effect of blocking public learning of their argument in favor of keeping prop 8 in effect. Right?

    I should think the anti-gay folks would like for their argument to be known, so people can be persuaded by it. Unless they fear it is unpersuasive.

    But to make it easier for MKFers, here's an enactment of the case:

    Characters: Pro-Gay (PG); Anti-Gay(AG).

    Opening arguments:

    PG: Gay is really quite normal.
    AG: Ain't neither!
    PG: Is so!
    AG: Ain't neither!
    PG: Is so!
    AG: Ain't neither!


    AG: Gay is naughty.
    PG: Ain't neither!
    AG: Is so!
    PG: Ain't neither!
    AG: Is so!
    PG: Ain't neither!
    A gentleman named Teddy Partridge is live-blogging the Prop 8 trial. There's so much, I can't quote but there's quite a lot of testimony that has been transcribed.

    DADT Repeal: Dems Move Forward With Plans
    Congressional negotiators and White House officials are moving forward with plans to add the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell to the upcoming defense authorization bill, Democratic sources tell the Huffington Post.

    In Congress, members are being whipped to ensure that the votes will be there for passage, should the legislation be placed in the bill. At this juncture, aides say, the prospects look good. Meanwhile, a source close to the White House says the president has instructed the Defense Department that he believes the repeal of DADT should be placed in the authorization bill.

  8. #58


    GLAAD Demands Apology and Retraction of Dangerous Anti-Gay Cartoon
    On Wednesday, 13 January, The Observer, the student newspaper at Notre Dame University ran an incredibly troubling cartoon that promotes violence against the LGBT community.

    The cartoon depicted a conversation between two figures. The conversation read,

    “What’s the easiest way to turn a fruit into a vegetable?”

    “No idea.”

    “A baseball bat.”
    The cartoonist had posted on his blog – though it’s since been removed – his original version of the cartoon. In the original version, it shows that the punchline read, “AIDS” instead of “A baseball bat.” The paper, he reported, preferred “not to make light of fatal diseases.”

  9. #59


    Marriage resolution arrives at Iowa Senate
    It’s official.

    A joint resolution sponsored by 18 Senate Republicans was introduced Thursday proposing a constitutional amendment specifying marriage between one man and one woman as the only legal union that is valid or recognized in the state.

    “This starts the ball rolling. It’s imperative that the citizens of the state of Iowa have something that they can point to as a mechanism to start the ball rolling,” said Sen. Merlin Bartz, R-Grafton.

    “Now that we’ve had this introduced in the Senate, they’ll have the opportunity to contact their legislators and ask them to support the Senate joint resolution,” he added.

    However, Bartz conceded Senate Joint Resolution 2001 faces nearly insurmountable odds in being debated during the 2010 session – given the steadfast opposition from Senate Majority Leader Mike Gronstal, D-Council Bluffs.

    “I appreciate that people feel strongly about this issue. I think people should advocate for the things that they believe in and I encourage them to do that,” Gronstal said. “I think I’ve been abundantly clear to people, I do not intend to take this up this session.”

  10. #60


    Malawi government defends gay couple's prosecution
    Malawi's government said Monday that it is unmoved by international criticism of the trial of a gay couple charged with unnatural acts and gross indecency, felonies for which they could be imprisoned for up to 14 years.

    In a statement Monday, Malawi's Information Minister Leckford Mwanza Thoto made no apology for the laws that criminalize homosexual acts. He said Steven Monjeza and Tiwonge Chimbalanga were "clearly breaking the laws of Malawi."

    "As government we cannot interfere in the court process," Thoto said. "We depend on our Western friends, yes, but we are a sovereign country."

    Forty percent of Malawi's budget is funded by international donors.

    Monjeza, 26, and Chimbalanga, 20, have been jailed since their arrest Dec. 27, the day they celebrated their engagement with a party that drew crowds of curious onlookers in this conservative southern African country. Hearings in the trial also have attracted crowds.

    A verdict is expected next month.

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    New United Nations General Assembly President calls homosexuality 'unnacceptable'
    The newly-installed president of the United Nations General Assembly, Ali Abdussalam Treki, has said that homosexuality is "not really acceptable".

    Treki, who is the Libyan secretary of African Union Affairs, opened the 64th session of the United Nations General Assembly Friday with a press conference.

    One question concerned the UN resolution which calls for the universal decriminalisation of homosexuality.

    In reply, Treki said: "That matter is very sensitive, very touchy. As a Muslim, I am not in favour of it . . . it is not accepted by the majority of countries. My opinion is not in favour of this matter at all. I think it's not really acceptable by our religion, our tradition.

    “It is not acceptable in the majority of the world. And there are some countries that allow that, thinking it is a kind of democracy . . . I think it is not,” he added.

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    Cindy McCain NOH8 PHOTO: McCain Joins Project Protesting Prop 8
    On Wednesday, the NOH8 campaign protesting California's Proposition 8 announced a new high-profile Republican supporter: John McCain's wife, Cindy McCain. NOH8 is a photo project in which subjects are photographed wearing white, against a white background, with their mouths taped shut and "NOH8" painted on their faces.

    McCain's daughter Meghan McCain -- a vocal proponent of marriage equality -- posed for NOH8 last summer.
    Gays leave unfriendly South Beach for Fort Lauderdale
    The makeup artist does not look happy. A bloody gash on his forehead is fastened with black stitches, scrapes cover his cheeks, and his eyes — once lined with mascara — are badly swollen. Tony Lopez hides behind a pair of sunglasses and explains why he looks so rough: "I got jumped for being gay."

    Three days earlier, everything had been fine. Lopez, a 29-year-old employee of MAC Cosmetics, was celebrating the White Party — the world's largest fundraiser for AIDS — in South Beach. He dressed up, watched a drag show with two friends, and ordered a vodka cranberry cocktail at Twist nightclub.

    It was 4 a.m. November 29 when he wandered by himself to the take-out window of David's Cuban Café on Meridian Avenue near Lincoln Road. As he approached the line for food, an aggressive 20-something staggered up to him.

    "Got a cigarette?" he asked. Tony shook a Marlboro Mild from the pack and handed him one.

    Right then, a gang — Tony remembers four men — "appeared out of the woodwork." They shoved him into the alley behind the restaurant, yelled "****ing faggot!" and began to punch him. He fell to the ground and tried to shield his head as they kicked him in the face.

    "It crossed my mind to play dead," Tony recalls. "I felt completely helpless and degraded." Afterward, he stumbled a couple of blocks and passed out on the sidewalk.

    When he awoke, nursing a concussion in a dreary hospital room, he realized his attackers hadn't bothered to steal his jewelry, wallet, or cell phone. They were more interested, he believes, in beating up a queer.

  13. #63


    Dolly Parton's Words of Gay Rights Wisdom
    Parton generally isn't a hotbed of political activism herself. She's no Dixie Chicks. No Bruce Springsteen. Certainly no Rage Against the Machine. But there is one political issue she's willing to speak out on, and for someone who is immersed in some of the deepest red parts of the United States, her involvement is not insignificant.

    That would be gay rights. And when it comes to supporting gay rights, she comes down with a pretty simple yet universal message: gay rights are human rights.

    Huh, maybe someone could pass that message along to the dozens of countries that still execute or imprison queer folks because of their sexual orientation and/or gender identity.

    Speaking to The Times, Parton responded to a question about how she justifies having an annual Gay Day at her amusement park, the beloved Dollywood, which is right-smack in the middle of the Bible Belt.

    "I’m not a poster child for gay rights by any means," Parton says. "But I have so many gay and lesbian friends and they’re just so pure and so true. That’s not politics to me. That’s human rights.”

  14. #64


    Utah lawmaker acts to block D.C. gay marriage
    Rep. Jason Chaffetz, Utah Republican, on Tuesday submitted legislation in the House of Representatives that would overturn a D.C. bill allowing gay marriage.

    Gay marriage is not yet legal in the District of Columbia, but the D.C. Council passed a bill in December allowing the unions in the city.

  15. #65


    Pentagon to detail new 'don't ask, don't tell' steps
    The Pentagon will unveil steps next week that the military will take to lay the ground for a repeal of its "don't ask, don't tell" policy, which permits gays to serve in uniform as long they hide their sexual orientation, officials said on Thursday.

    Defence Secretary Robert Gates and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, will present an "implementation plan" to U.S. lawmakers next Tuesday, spelling out measures that the Pentagon will take internally before the White House and the Congress move to change the law.

    In his first State of the Union speech on Wednesday, President Barack Obama called for ending the policy, saying: "This year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are."
    Polis introduces safe schools bill for LGBT students
    A gay U.S. House member on Wednesday introduced legislation that would provide added protection for LGBT students in schools throughout the country.

    The bill, sponsored by Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), is known as the Student Non-Discrimination Act. The legislation would provide remedies for actual or perceived discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in both elementary and secondary schools.

    Polis’ bill, H.R. 4530, is based on Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of gender in education programs or activities receiving federal funds. The new legislation has 60 original co-sponsors, according to a statement from Polis’ office.

    “Every day innocent students fall victim to relentless harassment and discrimination from teachers, staff and fellow students based on their sexual orientation,” Polis said in the statement. “These actions not only hurt out students but, left unchecked, can also lead to life-threatening violence.”

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    What a great thread! I haven't posted in quite awhile, but I still come to catch up on skating news.

    It's such an exciting time for LGBT people! This thread is full of so much information! I'm loving it! I knew Bea Arthur was very queer friendly (all the Golden Girls were/are), and that's just sweet that she left money for a gay homeless shelter......classy lady.

    In other news, I have now been legally married to a man (at least legal in Iowa and a few other states...I lose track) for several months now....and guess what? The world hasn't fallen apart! The married couples around me are still married. The world isn't ending! Shocking huh? I used to argue gay marriage issues, but I've completely given up. A, out of just being exhausted over talking about it (I praise the activists in this world.....I don't know how they do it!), and B, I'm sick of hearing the same arguments against it, and NONE of them make any sense. All of them are based on miseducation, hatred, or just ignorance. Even my father, whom happily came to my wedding, loves my husband, and had a very gay old time at the reception, Still doesn't understand why I got married! I just give up. I'm happy, and thanks to the law, which is 99.9% on our side, things will keep improving. I've yet to hear an argument against gay marriage that has any legal merit what-so-ever. Every couple weeks a new state recognizes same-sex marriages from other states......things keep moving. As I always can slow down progression, but you can't stop it.

    Don't ask don't tell will hopfully eventually be going away. I know Clinton thought he was doing a good thing...and I guess in a way it did help. But, it's just rediculous to still have such a hateful policy in place while our country is in desperate need of people to join the military. So many of my gay friends never even considered joining the military.....and I can't blame them. My brother, who did 2 tours in Iraq and was stationed in Germany for several years, has told me several times that the soldiers on the ground couldn't care less if the person next to them is gay. It just doesn't matter. Amen!

    I'm rambling! Just great to have a LGBT thread here. I will check often!
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnylutz View Post
    In other news, I have now been legally married to a man (at least legal in Iowa and a few other states...I lose track) for several months now....<snip>
    shrieks and makes cross with index fingers at donnylutz

    Ha ha, just messing with you. Congrats and I hope married life is going well.

    I haven't posted a lot about it, but the Prop 8 trial should be ending soon and it's obvious that its supporters don't have a leg to stand on. The pro-H8 witnesses are saying things like gays are predators and molesters and backing it up with things like "I read it on the internet somewhere". If they win, it will be a blatant miscarriage of justice.

    Powell Favors Repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’
    “In the almost 17 years since the ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ legislation was passed, attitudes and circumstances have changed...I fully support the new approach presented to the Senate Armed Services Committee this week by Secretary of Defense Gates and Admiral Mullen.”

  18. #68


    Asking and Telling In Israel
    I began my mandatory service in the Israel Defense Forces in the summer of 1994, just a year after the government decided that gays could serve openly in the military.

  19. #69


    Christians claim hate crimes law an effort to ‘eradicate’ their beliefs
    "[Because] the law has no effect on their rights to belief or expression of belief, the only logical conclusion is that these four Christians wish to plan for, conspire to commit, or commit an act of violence"

  20. #70


    A direct quote from the Act:

    (3) CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS- Nothing in this Act shall be construed to prohibit any constitutionally protected speech, expressive conduct or activities (regardless of whether compelled by, or central to, a system of religious belief), including the exercise of religion protected by the First Amendment and peaceful picketing or demonstration.
    So these "religious" folks will be able to say & do anything these want,
    as long as they remain peaceful. NOTHING will have changed.

  21. #71


    Lt. Dan Choi, LGBT Hero, Called Back To Active Military Service

    I think Anne Hathaway is my new favorite actress.

    Hathaway Quits Catholicism for Gay Brother
    “Why should I support an organization that has a limited view of my beloved brother?"

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    Meet Carrie Prejean's Mentally Ill Soul Sister

    Miss Beverly Hills is totally down with killing gays CUZ DA BYEBULL SEZ SO! And it's okay that she thinks that because she has gay friends.

    I'd like to hear from these gay friends of hers. I want to see what gay person hates themselves so much that they would stoop to being friends with someone who thinks they deserve to die for being who they are.

    The website being FOXNews, they have since edited the story to make Miss Leviticus look better. This is the original story.

    But wait! Miss High Falutin' Christian is apparently a liar.

    The city "does not sponsor a beauty pageant and has no association with Miss California USA," the statement said.
    Not only that, Miss Leviticus "does not represent Beverly Hills in any capacity" and lives in Pasadena.

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    Citing same-sex marriage bill, Washington Archdiocese ends foster-care program

    Taking homophobia out on innocent children, yeah, that'll show those gays!

    Senators: Lift ban on gays donating blood
    The time has come to change a policy that imposes a lifetime ban on donating blood for any man who has had gay sex since 1977, 18 senators said Thursday.

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