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    I thought I would create a thread here in the "On the Ice" section of the forum to let all of you know that I am FINALLY going to be getting back onto the ice after a very long absence. I believe the last time I laced up my skates was around 2003 (after quitting in 2001/2002) to see what I could do. That last time I got back on the ice, I managed up to a double loop jump, an axel, and some spins. Not too bad, I guess, for having not skated for over a year.

    However, now we are talking about 6 years later, so it's a little scarier this time around. My body still has the muscle memory, as I can still easily do the jumps on the floor (as I've still done for some exercise), but I'm not sure how that will translate to the ice.

    I'm not too sure what my goal is for returning to the ice, but I've always enjoyed skating, and around the time I quit, I was simply too burnt out from being a full-time worker, full-time student, and full-time skater. It was A LOT of work, and nearly impossible for me to follow all of my dreams at once.

    I figured the other day that I've exceeded my goals so far with work, and am now in a great place, and have done very well for myself at age 28. I am now figuring out what's the next step for me (I guess that means becoming a CFO in a few years), and how to do it. In the meantime, I can use skating to make some new goals for myself. I can either do it just to get my jumps and spins back, do it to get into great shape, do it to finally complete my missing USFSA tests for Senior MITF and Free, or maybe just do it and force myself into a local competition and say I competed at the ripe old age of 28....in a regular level competition (i.e. non-adult)....only problem is that I could only skate in a Novice or Junior event so the technical elements, even for a local event, would require me to get back a triple or two.

    Anyway, I took my first step yesterday and forced myself over to the skate shop at my local rink (I trained at Pickwick and plan to continue skating there), and surprisingly the guy there told me my boots and blades are still in great shape. They only need to be coated with Sno-seal, and the blades need to be re-mounted and sharpened. Other than that, I will need to go to a boot repair place to get the eyelets on the top of the boots fixed (when I was still skating, they popped off and I simply laced the boot through the holes).

    I will be picking up the boots today, and maybe I'll skate tonight or tomorrow for some basic stroking and MITF practice.

    Next step is to get over to a store to purchase a mini handheld DV camera so I can have my practices documented. I thought it would be nice to have my progress recorded so I can see how good (or bad) I'm doing. Then I can also share here in this thread (so all of you can laugh at me ).

    I'll keep all of you posted!
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    Congrats on returning to the ice! I understand the "ripe old age" thing as I'm 27........things were certainly easier when I was 17! I too returned to the ice about 2 months ago after taking about a year off!

    Have fun and keep us updated!!!

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    Best of luck to you! Thats cool that you're getting back into it after so long off!
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    Many thanks to both of you. I'm just waiting to get my skates back and then I'll hop onto the ice to do some stroking and stuff.

    Knowing me, I'll be wanting to be back to my old form in no time...haha...however I want to put less pressure on myself, so hopefully I'll enjoy the process and take my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scootie12 View Post
    Many thanks to both of you. I'm just waiting to get my skates back and then I'll hop onto the ice to do some stroking and stuff.

    Knowing me, I'll be wanting to be back to my old form in no time...haha...however I want to put less pressure on myself, so hopefully I'll enjoy the process and take my time.

    That's what I'm doing...taking advice from Michelle!....take it a day at a time and really listen to your body. Of course, getting doubles back is great! I may get triples for the first time...we'll see.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by scootie12 View Post
    I thought I would create a thread here in the "On the Ice" section of the forum to let all of you know that I am FINALLY going to be getting back onto the ice after a very long absence. I believe the last time I laced up my skates was around 2003 (after quitting in 2001/2002) to see what I could do. That last time I got back on the ice, I managed up to a double loop jump, an axel, and some spins. Not too bad, I guess, for having not skated for over a year.

    However, now we are talking about 6 years later, so it's a little scarier this time around. My body still has the muscle memory, as I can still easily do the jumps on the floor (as I've still done for some exercise), but I'm not sure how that will translate to the ice.

    I'm not too sure what my goal is for returning to the ice, but I've always enjoyed skating, and around the time I quit, I was simply too burnt out from being a full-time worker, full-time student, and full-time skater. It was A LOT of work, and nearly impossible for me to follow all of my dreams at once.

    I figured the other day that I've exceeded my goals so far with work, and am now in a great place, and have done very well for myself at age 28. I am now figuring out what's the next step for me (I guess that means becoming a CFO in a few years), and how to do it. In the meantime, I can use skating to make some new goals for myself. I can either do it just to get my jumps and spins back, do it to get into great shape, do it to finally complete my missing USFSA tests for Senior MITF and Free, or maybe just do it and force myself into a local competition and say I competed at the ripe old age of 28....in a regular level competition (i.e. non-adult)....only problem is that I could only skate in a Novice or Junior event so the technical elements, even for a local event, would require me to get back a triple or two.

    Anyway, I took my first step yesterday and forced myself over to the skate shop at my local rink (I trained at Pickwick and plan to continue skating there), and surprisingly the guy there told me my boots and blades are still in great shape. They only need to be coated with Sno-seal, and the blades need to be re-mounted and sharpened. Other than that, I will need to go to a boot repair place to get the eyelets on the top of the boots fixed (when I was still skating, they popped off and I simply laced the boot through the holes).

    I will be picking up the boots today, and maybe I'll skate tonight or tomorrow for some basic stroking and MITF practice.

    Next step is to get over to a store to purchase a mini handheld DV camera so I can have my practices documented. I thought it would be nice to have my progress recorded so I can see how good (or bad) I'm doing. Then I can also share here in this thread (so all of you can laugh at me ).

    I'll keep all of you posted!
    I think it is great that you will be strapping on your skates agian. Best of luck to you and just....have fun with it! And no I don't think anyone would laugh, it is a wonderful thing when people go after their dreams, even if you don't become a national champ, you will be learning and doing something you love.

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    So this past weekend has been somewhat frustrating. I had several opportunities since last Friday to get onto the ice for a trial skate. My skates were supposed to be ready by Friday afternoon, but when I called the skate shop, I was told the guy was not there all day!!

    I thought nothing of it and decided to try back on Saturday. I figured I would miss the freestyle sessions, but could at least try out a public session just to get my feet under me.

    Saturday afternoon I call, and again....no skate shop guy! I'm told no one else can do the job and I'll just have to wait.

    Sunday...still no skates!

    Monday (today)...I finally learn that he is sick and won't be in for several more days. I guess I'm at his mercy and hopefully he gets back to the rink soon. The only major thing he needs to do is sharpen the blades, but I still want to wait for him to also water-proof the boots and also remount my blades, plug the old drill holes, etc.

    I guess I'm getting a bit antsy to just SKATE! LOL

    I will keep all of you posted on the progress.

    PS - I think I found a good camera to record my progress. I guess I'll get over to Best Buy this week to buy it.

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    Good luck, scootie! I'm looking forward to reading about your adventures on the ice!
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    So another day has passed and STILL no skates Great start, right?

    I called the skate shop yesterday evening, and was finally given an explanation for why the guy repairing my boots has been gone. Apparently he broke his ankle, and is waiting for clearance from his doctor to return to regular work duties. I guess he'll be out for a few more days.

    Being the antsy person I am, I told the other guy at the shop (who doesn't do repairs) that if I have no work done on my skates by Thursday afternoon, I simply want him to sharpen the blades so I can just get back onto the ice to get started with stroking and MITF exercises. An hour or two wont kill my skates from the moisture, and I will simply return them to the shop afterward to leave for some repair work.

    It was suggested I drive to El Segundo to get the repairs done faster, but I really don't feel like heading that way for some simple repairs.

    Here's hoping I am back on the ice by the weekend

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    Sorry for the double posting here, but I guess I'll use this thread for regular updates, which might include consecutive posts in the event there aren't comments between updates.


    I found out last night that the skate shop guy will not be returning until next Tuesday, so I have decided to have another guy lightly sharpen my blades so I can get in a few hours over the weekend. I will then leave my skates at the rink for the repair work to take place (hopefully) next Tuesday.

    I also went to Best Buy today and purchased a mini camcorder. I paid about $300 for it, including tax and an 8G memory card, so it better take some nice recordings

    I am planning on skating two sessions tomorrow morning. The first will focus on stroking and getting used to being on the ice again. The second session will hopefully focus on other stuff like spins and a few light jumps. I actually went skating in Central Park last winter and I was acting like my old self in no time. If I'm REALLY lucky and feeling good, I might even try an axel or double loop...haha

    I know it must sound crazy to non-skaters, but I've never lost my muscle memory, and I know that once I'm used to being on the ice I should find things easier to get back. A few years ago, I hadn't skated for a long time and did a double loop in by the second hour. That made me feel good! ha

    Hopefully a video update will happen tomorrow! Wish me luck!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scootie12 View Post
    Wish me luck!!!
    Good luck!
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    Not to worry, Scootie, a young feller like you won't have any trouble getting back to your previous skill level.

    Remember, after my first spring of skating, during which time the rink was available one evening the week (and I was very busy with a primary campaign for a good guy), I had surgery (emergency appendectomy) and then the rink closed forever anyway.

    So: I haven't been on the ice since 2004, and I'm 66 years old, and the only trick I learned was the booty-splatt. So if I ever get back on the ice, even I will still be able to do my best trick!
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    So last Saturday I finally made it onto the ice.

    I think it was a blessing in disguise that my regular rink did not have their normal morning session as I found out from others that it can get pretty crowded, especially with young skaters that don't exactly look where they go

    I ended up going to a smaller local rink for a 6am session. It was pretty quiet, and I skated until 9am...not exactly a smart move considering my absence and lack of conditioning.

    To sum everything up, I think I did pretty well for the first day back. For the first hour or so, I simply spent time stroking around the rink. I did crossovers, and a ton of very deep edging in various directions to really get a secure feel for the ice. I also worked on pretty simple moves, like 3-turns, rockers, mohawks, etc. All baby-step stuff to make sure I was comfortable moving about. I think it helped that I remembered a lot of the MITF tests for Intermediate, Novice, Junior, and Senior since I used some of those patterns for getting used to the ice.

    Later in the session, I started working on a few spins. I only worked on back scratch spins, one foot spins, and camels. The camel spin still needs some work on making sure my blade is spinning on the proper part, but that will easily come back once I regain my timing. In either case, I was happy with my spins because many came out nearly perfectly centered, which I thought was great considering how long it has been since I skated. The camel spin positions looked great on video, but again, I need to get back the speed and proper balance on my blade (I also think part of the issue was with the skate sharpening since I needed to wear down the fresh edges a little bit).

    I also did all of the single jumps except for the axel. Those went pretty well, and my loop and lutz were definitely the best of the day. I was actually laughing because I tend to get a lot of air on my toe jumps, and I did a huge single flip that caused me to land right into the wall. I felt like I did a Midori Ito I also did some single loop/single loop combos, and worked on getting comfortable with waltz jumps to start prepping for my axel. Perhaps I will try the axel the next time I skate. The loop jumps felt great and very secure. I really wanted to shoot for a double loop, but refrained from pushing myself too fast.

    My body is still slightly sore today, but I just keep stretching, and will do other workouts to keep the conditioning fresh. I probably did too much the first day back, so I need to tell myself to go slower and just enjoy the process.

    The only bad experience is my right (big) toe is bruised up from all of the landings and flips/lutzes I tried. I've been wearing flip flops since Saturday, and might go to a doctor to see if I need the swelling drained out from under the nail (I know, gross). Hopefully it will feel better, and I guess I should buy some items from the store to cushion that toe for the next time I skate.

    I only have bits and pieces of my skating on video, so maybe I'll posts those tidbits here in this thread once I have a chance to compile into a video. LOL, I'm just not sure if I'm ready for the critiques yet I'm very picky and analytical about my skating, so even after my first day back, I was finding so many things I felt needed correcting.
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    Scootie - I would love to see your skating videos. After watching donnylutz I was further inspired to keep on skating. Being a little older (cough cough) than you and donny sometimes I think...What am I nuts?? but I love skating and am determined not to give up on furthering my abilities on the ice.

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    Well here you go.

    For three hours of skating, I didn't get much footage to work with. My mom showed up for the last hour of practice, and only filmed a few things I did.

    Anyway, here's a quick video. I'm glad I have this since I can see what already needs correcting. I have no clue why my posture looked so bad because I'm sticking out my stomach all the time! LOL, I look like I weigh like 20lbs more than I really do...hahaha

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cr6YlPRluU

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    My right toe seems to be healing up pretty well. I still have a little bit of swelling around the nail, but am going to have that taken care of tonight. Draining the little amount of fluid from under the skin is supposed to release the remaining pressure I feel, so hopefully it works well

    Seems the only time I can really skate is in the early mornings if I wish to avoid the large crowds, so I'm still trying to figure out a decent schedule. Perhaps doing a few 5 and 6am sessions will be best while I'm still getting myself comfortable with skating again.

    I've also been doing some gym work strengthen my cardio and also keep my body nicely stretched out, which makes jumping and spinning much easier. I also want to avoid any muscle injuries, so stretching is obviously important. I'm hoping to get some more extensive video footage this week. I'd like to get some clips of different stroking sequences, in addition to some jumps and spins. If I feel good enough, I'm itching to do a double loop, and perhaps a double lutz.

    I need to go out tonight to buy some padding for my ankles and feet. My boots were the strongest pair SP Teri made at the time (Advantage boots), so I forgot how stiff they were on day 1. A few silicone pads and perhaps some moleskin should help reduce any issues on that front.

    PS - funny how my video already got over 100 views in a day. I always wonderd how many people watch skating practice clips on youtube

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    I really enjoyed the wee YouTube film, Scootie. Looks to me like you still remember how to do the tricks, and all you need is practice, practice, practice is all you need....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryStopher View Post
    I really enjoyed the wee YouTube film, Scootie. Looks to me like you still remember how to do the tricks, and all you need is practice, practice, practice is all you need....
    Many thanks.


    I went skating yesterday for Day 2's practice, and it went MUCH better. I spent a lot of time doing simple 3 turns, stroking, counters, rockers, etc. All basic deep edging moves to really get my feet under me.

    My single jumps were nice, strong, and very nicely balanced. I felt much better, and I think the video footage helped me correct my technique. I even was bold enough to attempt a double loop, but ended up two footing the jump because my body still isn't comfortable with two rotations yet, but hopefully tomorrow's practice I can do one easily.

    Also got better with the spins I attempted. On the practice, I worked on my balance on my forward spins. I practiced a lot of really fast one foot spins, making sure I maintained good speed and stayed in one spot. I also got in a few good camel spins, sit spins, and back scratch spins. I think tomorrow I will start working on back camels, flying camels, and back sit spins.

    Anyway, I'll post another update as I get another practice under my belt.

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    Yay, Scootie!!! I haven't been on the forum much lately - just too busy with work and the other parts of life. I'm really impressed with how quickly you got back in the "groove!" Muscle memory is amazing....sounds like you are doing everything right to get your body in shape. I think I told you once about my experience when I went back to ballet class when I was (cough) mid-life. The school thought I should start at intermediate rather than beginner.... my muscles did "remember" - however, I forgot how demanding class could be... and after 4 classes, I could hardly move, and dropped back to beginner/intermediate, non-professional. Since I had no goals except to work on posture and flexibility (and have fun), I was much happier there...although my ego was a bit bruised along with my body!

    Thanks so much for sharing your videos. Its really inspiring, and I'm impressed!

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    I skated on July 4th, and now have an update video of my practice:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H41qvI7O62A


    I am feeling better, but realize I have a very long road ahead of myself in order to get some more advanced moves back. I definitely have the muscle memory, but translating back to the ice isn't as easy

    I am going to see the doctor this week too because I seemed to have hurt my left leg doing some spins, and then on the 4th, my right leg was hurting from prep jumps for getting back the axel.

    I have been stretching quite a bit, but I think I'm trying to push myself TOO fast, which has been a bit of a mistake. Since I need to focus more time on regaining excellent posture and advanced footwork, I think I'll keep my focus on MITF elements. I'll hold off on spins and jumps until my body feels better.

    I've also been doing some gym conditioning in order to have better stamina and strength. I could also lose another 5 or so pounds



    Quote Originally Posted by missmarysgarden View Post
    Yay, Scootie!!! I haven't been on the forum much lately - just too busy with work and the other parts of life. I'm really impressed with how quickly you got back in the "groove!" Muscle memory is amazing....sounds like you are doing everything right to get your body in shape. I think I told you once about my experience when I went back to ballet class when I was (cough) mid-life. The school thought I should start at intermediate rather than beginner.... my muscles did "remember" - however, I forgot how demanding class could be... and after 4 classes, I could hardly move, and dropped back to beginner/intermediate, non-professional. Since I had no goals except to work on posture and flexibility (and have fun), I was much happier there...although my ego was a bit bruised along with my body!

    Thanks so much for sharing your videos. Its really inspiring, and I'm impressed!
    Many thanks!! I feel like you because my body remembers everything, but I'm slightly frustrated. For example, I LOVE spinning, but my body is not yet balanced enough to spin smoothly. I know I can do double jumps in my sleep, but I can't yet translate that back to the ice.

    Case-in-point.......I need to SLOW DOWN, take my time, and HAVE FUN.

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    Michael, I'm so glad that you're skating again. I know how important it is to get back into shape, but try to pace yourself and slow down a bit on the leg stretches. Just take it easy on that leg muscle and I hope your big toe is much better now!

    Thanks for posting the videos. I'm looking forward to watching them!
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    This is so cool Scottie! I have been this excited for a "return to skating" since Tonya made her pro debut in '99. Best of luck!
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    Thanks everyone for the comments!

    Just to give a quick update, I went to see a chiropractor friend of mine that checked out my injured left leg. Although the muscle still seems tender, he said it's nothing serious based on the tests he did, and baiscally told me to slow down. He said my streching routine seemed good, but suggested I so some variations of a few of my stretches in order to get full coverage to my upper leg (where it's tender).

    I am going in for another treatment tomorrow, and he's also going to do some work on my right foot since my toe took a beating from the flips and lutzes. It was bruised last week, and this week it doesn't hurt, but the nail has turned nearly black! eek

    Sorry if too much info to share, but just documenting the aches and pains associated with the sport.

    I've been given the green light to go back skating on Saturday. I'm just going to avoid certain spins, like the camel and sit, because those are the ones that hurt my leg in the first place.

    Hopefully more video footage from Saturday's skate.

    My next order of business is to find a coach. I just need someone to observe my skating and also help me build myself back into more advanced manuevers.

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    Well done. I love your posture and I could watch you skate around the ice for a long time. Your edges are sooooo good. It's a pleasure to watch you stroke.

    I do hope you take it slow and remember that you only have one body, and it's not 13 anymore. (Paraphrasing Michelle here.) You will achieve your former skill level and beyond, since that is your goal, just please listen to your body while you are doing so. In the long run, it will take less time to go slowly than to be too quick and recover from the injuries. Your basics are excellent, as is your form, so keep at it and give time time.

    Thanks so much for sharing this. It's very inspiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulmkfan View Post
    Well done. I love your posture and I could watch you skate around the ice for a long time. Your edges are sooooo good. It's a pleasure to watch you stroke.

    I do hope you take it slow and remember that you only have one body, and it's not 13 anymore. (Paraphrasing Michelle here.) You will achieve your former skill level and beyond, since that is your goal, just please listen to your body while you are doing so. In the long run, it will take less time to go slowly than to be too quick and recover from the injuries. Your basics are excellent, as is your form, so keep at it and give time time.

    Thanks so much for sharing this. It's very inspiring.

    Thanks for those nice compliments. I am super obsessed with edges being deep and smooth. My former coach was big on me always doing very deep edging when I used to compete, so it became part of my daily routine to always do some basic elements in order to get a good feel for the ice. I think on certain elements, such as my crossovers, I can bend in the knee just a bit more. I noticed that while my knees feel nicely bent, they don't *look* as much when I see on video.

    Anyway, I think I'll just shoot a quick update of my last practice just to have some record of it

    I skated this past Saturday for two hours, and spent a lot of time stretching the area in my upper left leg that has been nagging me. I skated fine without any issues, and as of today I basically feel pain/ache free. I think the strain I put on the muscle the week prior is slowly healing, but now I feel much better!

    I didn't push myself too hard this last practice. I only limited myself to repeating the same stuff as the last two weeks, which was stroking, some spins, and all single jumps. I started doing more prep work for the axel, so I'm hoping to have that jump back by next week. I know I can easily do it, but don't want to push myself too hard and hurt myself on the ice. Gratefulmkfan, you're right...go slow. It'll benefit me in the long-run.

    I also spoke to two different coaches that should be able to work with me and push me to do more. I also think it will help a bit for a coach to get me on the harness just to get the feeling back of doing double jumps. I want the feeling back so I can have proper centering on the axis so I don't start attempting things and splatting all over the place

    Lastly, since I have limited time to skate these days, I am getting back into my gym groove, which will help with stamina and stretching. My workouts typically consist of hitting the bike for about 15 mins (this usually equates to about 3+ miles of bike riding at my current pace), rowing machine for 10 mins or 2000 meters, lots of stretching, calf raises, leg presses, etc.

    Maybe within a week I'll have a new practice video posted. I figured I didn't want to post me doing the same old stuff.

    And again, thanks to everyone for the encouragement! This forum, and messages from youtube, are actually motivating me to keep at it. I've felt discouraged a few times already in two full weeks of skating, but I know things will slowly fall back into place.

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