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    Question Spins on new skates

    I've been on the ice now twice with my new skates, and for the most part I am LOVING them.....

    However, I am having quite a hard time with my spins. I've all ways had a really good sit spin. With my new skates, my forward sit is just fine, but my back sit...or really any back spin at all, is just horrible. I'm rocking back and forth and can't find my centering at all. I'm thinking it might have something to do with my new blades. I have parabolic blades, which are suppose to help with spins, as it's a curved blade. Maybe I just need to give it some time...and get used to it? I've only been on my new skates twice...I might be rushing! But, I'm going to actually compete this year on the adult level, and the 2010 adult nationals (which will be in my hometown in Minnesota) are only a year away, so I'm already starting to go into panic mode!

    Any advice out there?...anyone have parabolic blades?

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    Donnylutz
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    My only advice would be, depending on the strength of the boot, it might be a really good idea for you to incorporate A LOT of stroking MITF into your warm-up routine. I'm talking about 15-20 minutes worth per day. Moves that involve one-foot stroking are the best because you can get really deep on the edges, and also get your leg into a great bent position.

    Although you might feel comfortable in your new boots, you have to remember they are providing you brand new support that you weren't feeling in your older ones. When you're doing spins, like a sit spin, you probably notice it's a bit more difficult to get into a good position because there is probably so much support going all the way up the boot. That feeling will obviously go away once you break down the boot a bit more.

    If you're still not used to the blades, I would still recommend upping your MITF warm-up, but also practice a lot of basic spins. For example, start out by practicing several strong back scratch spins to get your centering. Then maybe try practicing several "semi" back sit spins just to get the feeling of the centering, and also get used to the feeling of your body spinning in a lower sit position. Might sound funny, but I think you'll notice that you will work your way back into a decent back sit spin.


    PS - I'm not sure what level of skating you're at, but if this isn't too advanced for you, this is what I was talking about. I used to practice this everyday to get my feet under me. The guy in this video rushes it a bit and doesn't go deep enough on the edges, but whatever . These types of movements help when you're in new boots.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hxve...eature=related
    Last edited by scootie12; April 12th, 2009 at 02:24 PM.

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    You might also want to make sure you've got the blades properly aligned. For the longest time I was struggling with getting/maintaining correct edges even though I was doing everything else correct... we finally looked at the boots/blades and the blade alignment needed to be tweaked. It made all of the difference too!

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    Very true synnabun. Hopefully most skaters have a good technician that knows what he/she is doing.

    I've also noticed that in 9 times out of 10, new blades tend to take a while to get used to. Sometimes they require several sharpenings until the edges are to the skater's liking.

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    Thank you both for your advice!

    I'm doing a lot of MITF stuff as I'm going to start testing in the next few months. It has all ready helped quite a bit. It really is just giving them some time and getting used to them, and getting used to the blade. When I do a good spin now, it's MUCH faster then it used to be, and I really think the blade is helping a lot.

    To answer your question Scootie on what level I'm at...well that's hard to say! I've never tested or competed in ice skating, but was a competitive roller skater until I was 18, I then switched to ice and skated a lot, but never did anything with it. Now, at 27, I'm finally focusing on the ice, and it's great! My goal this year is to compete at adult nationals on the gold level, though my skills are much more matched with masters. I have...well had (still breaking in my boots) all of my doubles, minus double axle. I've got my double toe and double salchow back, and as of today I'm starting to work on the flip and loop. It's so exciting to actually be training and learning things, especially MITF which I have no experience with what-so-ever! I feel like I'm finally learning the basics, which I somehow skipped over when I started skating.

    Any ways, I'm rambling. Thanks for the advice, and probably future advice!

    Donnylutz.
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    Just an update!

    My spins have continued to get a little better...and MITF is certainly helping. I also got my blades sharpened and that helped ALOT! I hated my last boots (reidell gold star customs) but am absolutely LOVING my new boots, Reidell LS2010.......I was scared to try them as they only have three eyelets and was scared I wouldn't have enough support......but they were listed by Reidell as their best freestyle boot now, and they are much lighter then the rest of their boots....They are not only comfortable, but they have support exactly where I need it, and are gentle and a little bendable where I need it.....anyone deciding on new boots, give them a look!

    Again I'm rambling! My spins are so much better now and continue to get better...my forward camel is the best it's ever been....the more I feel out these blades the more I love them.......

    Donnylutz
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    Donnylutz -- did you compete in Adult Nationals --I would like to see your skate on Ice Network . What level did you end up skating in.

    I've just completed my pre-bronze MITF test and passed. Woo Hoo. Now on to pre-bronze Freestyle which my coach feels pretty confident I will pass in July. I get so scary with the testing but afterward I feel so great. I'm way older than you but feel so young when I'm skating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manskater View Post
    Donnylutz -- did you compete in Adult Nationals --I would like to see your skate on Ice Network . What level did you end up skating in.

    I've just completed my pre-bronze MITF test and passed. Woo Hoo. Now on to pre-bronze Freestyle which my coach feels pretty confident I will pass in July. I get so scary with the testing but afterward I feel so great. I'm way older than you but feel so young when I'm skating.
    Hello!

    I am hoping to compete this upcoming season! After chatting with a coach I've learned that I won't be able to pass through gold in time for nationals (which are in my home state of minnesota), which kinda sucks cause I was hoping on that. So now I'm just starting the tests and will see where I"m at when it's time for the qualifying competitions. Unfortunately, I now have some tendonitis in my right foot which is hurting when I land jumps, so I'm taking a week off and seeing a doctor in a few days to make sure that's what it is. Needless to say, being injured is not fun.

    I love adult skating because it's set up for people of all ages and abilities, and it's great that you are having fun with it!!!

    Since I haven't competed at nationals I don't have anything on icenetwork, but I do have a video on youtube of a practice a few weeks ago, the link is

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d5vuQcX_1I

    Keep me updated on your testing progress, and I'll do the same!

    Donnylutz
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    Donnylutz -- I am blown away by your spins and jumps. I hope you will compete in Adult Nationals. Your yourtube video gives me inspiration even if I do not reach your level. Wouldn't it be great if a bunch of us ended up competing in Adult Nationals in the same year???

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    Thanks so much for the link and for sharing your skating with us. I'm in awe of your spins and your double salchow looks so easy for you. Keep up the good work.
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    Thank you both! I can't wait to go to adult nats.....and yes, a bunch of MKFr's competing would be awesome!

    Manskater-

    What you said is really sweet! Thank you!
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