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    Okay, folks -- let's talk about Rachael Flatt. What do you think she would need to up her artistry (posture, etc .) and skating skills to become a better skater and really challenge some of the ladies at the top level?

    From what I've seen, I've seen a lot of slouch, facial expressions and there's definitely enthusiasm there (not to mention hard work, I'm sure).

    If you were her coach, what would you suggest she do to improve? I'm thinking off-ice ballet lessons, posture classes, etc. etc.

    After a year or so of that, then finding a really great choreographer might help. I'm not a big fan of hers, but I do see some sort of potential here (though her skating to me has that sort of awkwardness that I saw in the young Sarah Hughes, who was actually more polished by that age in some way).

    Your thoughts?

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    In her own words, She already takes ballet as part of her off-ice training"
    I skate two sessions before school each day and two sessions after school each day. Off ice work (strength and conditioning, off ice jumps, ballet, etc) is worked in later in the afternoons after all my On Ice work is completed. Then, it is home for homework, dinner, more homework, hanging out with my dogs, Lucy and Ethel, and time for bed."
    OT: She originally competed in both singles and pairs on the national level. As a pair skater, she won the silver medal at Nationals on the juvenile level in 2003 and the intermediate title in 2004, both with Andrew Speroff. Does anyone know if Andrew is still skating?

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    Well then she needs more ballet lessons, maybe every day. And she needs to attend ballets so she can study the carriage and arms of real ballerinas. It is her posture and arms that are the most need of fixing I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lasaslav View Post
    Okay, folks -- let's talk about Rachael Flatt. What do you think she would need to up her artistry (posture, etc .) and skating skills to become a better skater and really challenge some of the ladies at the top level?

    From what I've seen, I've seen a lot of slouch, facial expressions and there's definitely enthusiasm there (not to mention hard work, I'm sure).

    If you were her coach, what would you suggest she do to improve? I'm thinking off-ice ballet lessons, posture classes, etc. etc.

    After a year or so of that, then finding a really great choreographer might help. I'm not a big fan of hers, but I do see some sort of potential here (though her skating to me has that sort of awkwardness that I saw in the young Sarah Hughes, who was actually more polished by that age in some way).

    Your thoughts?
    I find Rachel miles above where Sarah was at the same age. Her posture isn't nearly so bad & her jumps are usually rotated. To me, Sarah's skating had so many flaws that I found her almost unwatchable. Maybe it was because I never got over that initial impression from when she was 12-13 out of my head. Rachel made a much better first impression on me.
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    I think she just needs a little more spark. She's got the goods she just needs a little something extra.
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    I quite like her, I have since the 2007 Nationals. I wonder if part of her problem is that she's going through puberty right now. She wasn't nearly as...awkward in 2007. She's got a very Irina-type body, so she has to be careful how she dresses and moves so she does look heavier than she is. I actually think she should stop going for the balletic look. She would do fabulous going more flamboyant and camp. I think she should pick a good showtune and go to town. And I mean go all out with it, silly moves, wild coustume (not stupid wild though, there is a line), dye her hair red, the works! She's a very musical girl and she moves well when she's comfortable. I don't think ballet classes are going to help much right now because I get the feeling she hasn't quite 'grown into' her body just yet. Just look at her 2007 Nationals sp and you can see she really does have excellent showmanship when she's on. They should give her something that forces her to play to the crowd and really perform instead of just skate.

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    Maybe some of those arm movements. Soften them a bit. Like Kimmie did that this season in her SP (which I adore) and it worked well But I already see drastic improvements from the two seasons before!

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    I think she should engage more with the audience and choose livelier music. She's very, very good already, though. Like GoldenMichelle said, she just needs a little something extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnie21 View Post
    I quite like her, I have since the 2007 Nationals. I wonder if part of her problem is that she's going through puberty right now. She wasn't nearly as...awkward in 2007. She's got a very Irina-type body, so she has to be careful how she dresses and moves so she does look heavier than she is. I actually think she should stop going for the balletic look...
    i thought she looked just as awkward in '97.

    to me, Sarah was a bit "duh-huh" - where Rachel is just the physical opposite of the petite dark-haired skaters the US had in Michelle & Sasha & have in Mirai & Caro.

    i hope to god she doesn't go for camp. for one, she doesn't strike me as "camp". but two, silly moves & a wild costume aren't going to hide the physical specimen she is. IMO, they'll make her look like a fool. i could understand your take if you suggested she attempt more aggressive, powerful programs. either way, ballet can only help. it'll help with core strength, line & extension & that's a plus no matter the style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronts View Post
    i thought she looked just as awkward in '97.

    to me, Sarah was a bit "duh-huh" - where Rachel is just the physical opposite of the petite dark-haired skaters the US had in Michelle & Sasha & have in Mirai & Caro.

    i hope to god she doesn't go for camp. for one, she doesn't strike me as "camp". but two, silly moves & a wild costume aren't going to hide the physical specimen she is. IMO, they'll make her look like a fool. i could understand your take if you suggested she attempt more aggressive, powerful programs. either way, ballet can only help. it'll help with core strength, line & extension & that's a plus no matter the style.

    oh well, i mean no harm. i just don't agree~
    I agree completely, aaron - particularly about ballet - it is the underlying structure for dance of all kinds - without a strong sense of center and the core strength to maintain it, there will always be moments of awkwardness. If you watch Rachel, she is constantly "recovering" her center instead of "maintaining" it - that's what the "hunching" is all about. For example, when she raises her arms, she also raises her shoulders, which destabilizes her core. Just one example. I admire Rachel in many ways, but her skating is painful for me to watch. She is lacking in line and extension, which is less about body type than lack of the basics of movement. I think she needs daily ballet if she wants to progress.

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    Dosen't she already take daily ballet? I think she's got something special in her and would hate if she just became another clone that faded into the background. I'm not suggesting she dress up like a clown or anything but I think she needs to take some risks. She's one of the few girl (one of the very, very few) that I think has the musicality to step outside the box and they should explore that.

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    IMO what Rachael needs most is a new costume designer and stylist. She looks like she bought her dresses second hand. The illusion fabric stands out and the dresses hang oddly on her body. I think if she could get dresses tailored to her body and either wear her hair longish (a more decorative version of how she wore it in the COR exhibition number perhaps) or I think she would look cute in a more up do similar to the way Fumie had her hair in the COR lp. Her face kind of blends in with everything she has going on right now. I think she needs to wear make up that brings it out more.

    She also needs more speed. She had more last season so perhaps the combo between waiting to peak later in the season, nerves for this being her first international senior season and the pressure of living up to being jr world champion has slowed her down. I'll wait to see at nationals (which is where I first saw her the past 2 seasons).

    I also think Ballet has to be new to her routine-just the past few seasons maybe or perhaps she just does not take it seriously. She should then take up core yoga and/or pilates or whatever will teach her to keep control of her body.

    I think she just needs a little work. The same as the other American's right now (it's their jumps and her style&body control). As I said earlier in some thread here I think Rachael will peak next quad. I love her but she has a long way to go.
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    It's her first senior season. Why don't we just relax and give her time to get it all sorted out. I see improvements from last season but she's very young and dealing with a lot now.
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    IMHO, I like Rachal's technical and artistic qualities a lot better than some of the other skaters her age (past and present) that I've seen flapping their arms around looking like they're ready to take off in flight.

    She is definitely young, and with time and experience, I think she'll improve even more. I believe in time, that she'll gain some of the qualities that Michelle had already acquired at her age.
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    I think it would benefit Rachael to wear bolder colors, like red, black, or purple to accentuate her strengths as a skater. A bold shade of green I think would also look very well on her. As far as her hairstyle, I'd like to see a return of the french twist she wore during last season's SP, or maybe grow her hair out a little longer and try a ponytail. She could definitely use improvement in her stretch, posture, speed, and her spins. She has time to polish these areas. Most people I know looked and/or felt somewhat awkward during the insecure teenage years of 15 and 16. She's still young and still growing into her own body. I think she currently has the most going for her among the American ladies and I'd love to see her win the National title in January. I hope she has 2 great performances there!
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