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    i love ginny!!! ***hugs***
    You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends.
    ~Hillary Clinton


    In the Bible it says they asked Jesus how many times you should forgive, and he said 70 times 7. Well, I want you all to know that I'm keeping a chart.
    ~Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKGrace View Post
    Ahhh...it's good to be home.
    Yes. It kind of reminds me of the SNL skit ages ago, "The Dysfunctional Family Christmas".

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    Quote Originally Posted by moxie View Post
    But there is a huge difference between criticizing him and accusing his supporters of Watergate-type felonies. There is not one shred of evidence that anyone connected to Obama or the DNC was responsible.
    Oh, I see. It's okay to post outright accusations and innuendos against Palin for every kind or political malfeasance and chicanery you can think of, but we aren't supposed to suggest anything is amiss with HW or his camp without it being proven in a court of law. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I think I've got it now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puce View Post
    i love ginny!!! ***hugs***
    Back at ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKGrace View Post
    Oh, I see. It's okay to post outright accusations and innuendos against Palin for every kind or political malfeasance and chicanery you can think of, but we aren't supposed to suggest anything is amiss with HW or his camp without it being proven in a court of law. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I think I've got it now.

    Well, if you see an accusation against Palin that you feel is wrong, who's stopping you from challenging it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moxie View Post
    Well, if you see an accusation against Palin that you feel is wrong, who's stopping you from challenging it?
    Who says I have to challenge it? I don't really care what Obama supporters write about McCain and Palin. I'm not interested enough in that perspective to even bother, and believe it or not I'm not that into arguing. That's why I stay out of threads I have no business in.
    Last edited by MKGrace; September 19th, 2008 at 01:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKGrace View Post
    Who says I have to challenge it? I don't really care what Obama supporters write about McCain and Palin. I'm not interested enough in that perspective to even bother, and believe it or not I'm not that into arguing. That's why I stay out of threads I have no business in.


    Agreed. I don't give a rusty hoot about what Obama supporters write about McCain and Palan and do not feel as if it is my place to challenge or to poop all over the Obama drooler's thread.

    I will leave them to their robotic drooling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacd View Post
    Come on Ginny -- come back to us! Don't get discouraged.

    Vote for McCain and Palin
    It'll fix what you got ailin'
    With the maverick and barracuda
    Washington will be what it shoulda!!

    With Obama and Biden
    What train would you be riding
    Your economic troubles
    Would definitely double

    So come on Ginny vote for what's right
    Show Obama you don't bring a knife to a gunfight!


    (Okay - a poet I'm not -- but don't you feel energized now!!!)
    You know, I really appreciate that the McCain supporter's cared enough about me to write a poem to get me to come back.

    The Obama supporters only roll their eyes and admonish me for being a creep and somehow have a distorted sense of reality that I want them to beat me up to get Obama's support.

    Any Questions? Can the liberal
    elitists possilby comprehend the whole Palin phenomenon? I think not. All the degrees in the world do not give one common sense or an understanding of people who are not like them.

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    Obama is now consulting his numerous advisors about Wall Street. He is craming on Wall Street stuff ala Palin craming on foreign policies. It's a shame, that he won't be subject to a Charlie Gibson final exam on national TV following the cram sessions.

    He (Paul Volcker) is among a core group of Obama advisers on the financial crisis that includes Robert E. Rubin and Lawrence H. Summers, the former treasury secretaries, and Laura Tyson, an economic adviser in the administration of President Bill Clinton, all of whom are expected to meet with Mr. Obama on Friday in Miami.
    Mr. Obama calls at each campaign stop for tighter regulation of Wall Street and help for those on Main Street. Although he usually speaks without notes, in recent days he has consistently used a teleprompter, to avoid errors that would undercut his attempts to sound presidential.

    Between campaign appearances this week, he has received updates and briefings several times each day from Mr. Paulson, his economic advisers and Wall Street donors.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/us...cs&oref=slogin
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKGrace View Post
    Who says I have to challenge it? I don't really care what Obama supporters write about McCain and Palin. I'm not interested enough in that perspective to even bother, and believe it or not I'm not that into arguing. That's why I stay out of threads I have no business in.
    Yes, it is your choice to either post or not post when you see a post that you consider to be untrue or misleading. It's also your choice as to how you define what your "business" is.

    And if I choose to post in threads that are not "supporters" threads, that is my choice and my business as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinnySmith View Post
    Any Questions? Can the liberal
    elitists possilby comprehend the whole Palin phenomenon? I think not. All the degrees in the world do not give one common sense or an understanding of people who are not like them.
    You would probably define me as a "liberal elitist" (I would define myself as a "conservative populist"), but my background is quite similar to Palin's in that I had a blue-collar upbringing in a family that gathered some of its own food (raising poultry meat, eggs and vegetables), and required that I attend a state university using scholarships and campus jobs, with no money for an advanced degree.

    So it's not that I don't understand Palin because she is not like me.
    It's that I DO understand that she much like me. And that our shared backgrounds do not prepare either of us for high-level decisions relating to national security and international economics.

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    And you think Obama's background puts him in that place. What was it -- the drugs --

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacd View Post
    And you think Obama's background puts him in that place. What was it -- the drugs --
    Actually, both he and Palin have a brief history of using controlled drugs while a teen and/or college student (she said hers was marijuana, when it was legal in Alaska). Which means that I don't have anything in common with either of them on this issue.

    Part of Obama's background that "puts him in that place" is his being chosen for Law Review at Harvard & then elected by his peers (including specialists in international and economic law) to be President of the review. This means that he was highly regarded both in knowledge of law and in the ability to govern a large group of high-achievers.

    There is nothing in either my background or Palin's that compares.

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    so - you really are an elitist. No one is good enough unless they were at Harvard?

    God bless your entitled heart.

    This country was founded by people with heart, with guts, with fortitude. A degree does not make a person qualified to run the country. Running the Harvard Law Review does not make a person qualified to run the country.

    You want to take a shot at the majority of Americans -- you take a shot in your own thread. You want to look down on those of us who don't have a Harvard degree. You do it in your own thread.

    In another thread you likened Obama to Jesus. Well -- last I saw Jesus didn't go to Harvard -- does that mean he was unqualified to be the son of God. Guess only Obama is the true being. Obama hasn't turned water to wine. Guess Harvard didn't teach him the one thing that would have helped solidify the second coming.

    God bless your narrow minded self serving egotistical Obama toting heart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacd View Post
    In another thread you likened Obama to Jesus.
    for real? this actually happened? please say no and that you are exaggerating...please? becuase if it REALLY happened, that is TOTALLY twisted, nuts, delusional, sick, WRONG...i don't think there are enough negative adjectives to describe it...
    You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends.
    ~Hillary Clinton


    In the Bible it says they asked Jesus how many times you should forgive, and he said 70 times 7. Well, I want you all to know that I'm keeping a chart.
    ~Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puce View Post
    for real? this actually happened? please say no and that you are exaggerating...please? becuase if it REALLY happened, that is TOTALLY twisted, nuts, delusional, sick, WRONG...i don't think there are enough negative adjectives to describe it...
    I think what she is referring to is the quote "Jesus was a community organizer". She was just saying that Obama thus had a background similar to Jesus. I think that's quite a different thing. I believe she was trying to say that important people in history (there was a list) have been community organizers, and that you can make a difference in the world without having an extensive, standard political background. I'm sure no offense was meant! (I just read in another thread about people taking things too seriously?...)
    Luke
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    To even make a statement when in a thread about Obama - that Jesus was a community organizer too -- is likening him to Jesus.

    paleeaseee.

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    ok, that makes sense. PHEW! i have always said that jesus was a liberal. LOL! so obama has some of the qualities that jesus would approve of, but obama IS NOT jesus. that works.
    Last edited by Puce; September 19th, 2008 at 11:40 AM.
    You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends.
    ~Hillary Clinton


    In the Bible it says they asked Jesus how many times you should forgive, and he said 70 times 7. Well, I want you all to know that I'm keeping a chart.
    ~Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puce View Post
    ok, that makes sense. PHEW! i have always said that jesus was a liberal. LOL! so obama has some of the qualities that jesus would approve of, but obama IS NOT jesus. that works.
    Yep, that is my understanding of what she was getting at. (And I think she would agree!)
    Luke
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    I think it is blasphemy to associate any politician with Jesus and that is what many Obama supporters have done throughout the campaign. They say that Obama is a "gift to us" (Chris Matthews/Michelle Obama) and a "transformative, post-partisan, post-racial" candidate...a "citizen of the world". They also continually try to link Obama and his wife to John and Jackie Kennedy. Why can't Obama just do his thing without the desperate attempts to elevate himself to deity. It is sickening indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestar View Post
    Why can't Obama just do his thing without the desperate attempts to elevate himself to deity.
    Because he's an unqualified phony. This is one of their primary MO's--try to liken him with greats of the past so sheeple, I mean people, will vote for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moxie View Post
    and in the ability to govern a large group of high-achievers.
    ??? Law review is not about governing.

    Quote Originally Posted by moxie View Post
    There is nothing in either my background or Palin's that compares.
    Hey, this may be a novel idea to elitists like you moxie, but no where in the Constitution does it set a Harvard, Yale or Princeton degree as a prerequisite for the office of President of the United States of America. If you do not think that you are qualified then that is fine; do not run, but you should really stop foisting your own issues of inadequacy upon the rest of us.

    Oh and FYI-the current president (GW Bush) has an MBA from Harvard...a lot of good that degree has done him in "governing" our country.
    Last edited by bluestar; September 19th, 2008 at 06:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestar View Post
    ?

    Hey, [deleted by moderator] but no where in the Constitution does it set a Harvard, Yale or Princeton degree as a prerequisite for the office of President of the United States of America. If you do not think that you are qualified then that is fine; do not run, but you should really stop foisting your own issues of inadequacy upon the rest of us.

    Well, well, is it really you MONSTER, or just a look/sound-alike? Try a cold shower and quite insulting people - that's my domain
    Last edited by probativev; September 22nd, 2008 at 12:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madison View Post
    Well, well, is it really you MONSTER, or just a look/sound-alike? Try a cold shower and quite insulting people - that's my domain
    moxie is bringing it on herself by implying that Palin is unqualified because she didn't attend Harvard Law and was not on the HLR team. No MONSTER here by the way (as if I need to explain myself to you).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacd View Post
    To even make a statement when in a thread about Obama - that Jesus was a community organizer too -- is likening him to Jesus.

    paleeaseee.
    Before the MKF crash, I had "Jesus was a community organizer" as my signature. It appeared in every post & not just those about Obama.

    That reminds me; I need to edit my profile so that my signature now says:

    Jesus was a community organizer.
    And Pontius Pilate was a governor.

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