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    Quote Originally Posted by madison View Post
    Fact Check: Did Obama vote 94 times for higher taxes?
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...heck-94-times/


    The Statement: At a debate Thursday, Oct. 2 in St. Louis, Missouri, Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin charged Democrat Sen. Barack Obama of supporting higher taxes. "Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people's side and reduce taxes, and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction — 94 times."


    The Verdict: Misleading. Palin's summary ignores the fact that some of the votes were for measures to lower taxes for many Americans, while increasing them for a much smaller number of taxpayers. The total also includes multiple votes on the same measures and budget votes that would not directly lead to higher taxes.

    I'll put the actual quotes in BOLD so there is no mix-up on who said what. You betcha'!
    Thanks for finding this source. I like how she continually linked taxing 5% of the country (the highest income group) equaled being for higher taxes. Ick.
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    Thumbsdown Fact Check: Did Obama vote to cut funds for troops?

    Fact Check: Did Obama vote to cut funds for troops?

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ds-for-troops/

    The Statement:
    At an Oct. 2 debate in St. Louis, Missouri, Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin was talking about support for U.S. troops overseas. "I know that the other ticket opposed this surge — in fact, even opposed funding our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Barack Obama voted against funding
    troops after promising that he would not do so," she said.


    Verdict:
    Misleading. Obama supported a different version of the troop-funding plan — one that McCain spoke against.


    I'm remembering why I am not a republican't

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    It was a good debate party tonight. We even had a local television station to come by to tape. I thought it was a good debate, more like an actual debate than last week. I think both got in some good points and Sarah Palin did better than expected, which wasn't too hard. Polls are looking good for Obama/Biden, both early polls for the debate tonight and the latest polls from the battelground states.

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    Yeah I thought she did much better than expected, and I agree that it was a good debate overall. I thought once she got past the "let me talk about my record" in response to the questions, she did really good. Biden actually stumbled a bit more on his words than she did, although I thought he made some great points and stated his position well.

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    I laughed out loud when she blatantly stated that she wasn't going to answer the questions the way the monitor would like, etc. Also, did anyone else notice that when the topic of global warming and its causes was brought up, she really got stumbled/jumbled up? I think we've found her Kryptonite.

    Overall, yes. A good debate. I thought Palin held her own much better than I thought. However, I thought her attacks on Obama were not grounded well. But then again, I'm sure they're saying the exact reverse statement over in the No thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukicraze View Post
    I'm sure they're saying the exact reverse statement over in the No thread.
    I don't know, and I don't care. People already have their biases by this point, so I haven't even bothered going over to read any of the other threads. It would just irritate me more than help anything at this point, and by now they're not going to change my mind and we're not going to change theirs, etc. I hope everyone is happy with who they vote for when they vote for them, because that's all you can ask for really.

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    I was watching on CNN, which was monitoring a focus group with an on-screen tracking graphic (divided male/female); it would show their reactions going up & down as the candidates talked. Every time Palin tried to claim that Obama would raise taxes, or went negative in a way that is false, both lines took a dive. There also was a negative reaction each time she said the word "maverick," lol.
    Reactions to Biden were often flat, especially when he was talking in detail about policy. But he scored big whenever he mentioned the middle class & also when he mentioned job creation via the alternative energy plan.

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    I saw that as well. I notice that Biden's line rarely dipped into the negative territory and stayed mainly flat or positive. I thought that was a good sign of how his remarks played with independents and undecideds.

    So it's 2-0 and I think we'll make it 3-0 on Tuesday night.

    I'm working the voter registration drive tomorrow. I can't wait. It's really enjoyable getting to speak with voters. Sometimes they just want to vent to you about the way things are. I even had a fun conversation with a McCain supporter Sunday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krista View Post
    I don't know, and I don't care. People already have their biases by this point, so I haven't even bothered going over to read any of the other threads. It would just irritate me more than help anything at this point, and by now they're not going to change my mind and we're not going to change theirs, etc. I hope everyone is happy with who they vote for when they vote for them, because that's all you can ask for really.
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Krista.

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    Alert I like Joe Biden

    That's what I learned from this debate - I really like him. He's knowledgeable w/o being arrogant, and a total gentleman.

    Good choice that Caroline Kennedy et al made for Barack Obama (and us, of course)

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    Alert Gallup Daily: Obama Leading by 7 Points

    Gallup Daily: Obama Leading by 7 Points
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/110944/Ga...ng-Points.aspx


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    I agree, I really like Joe. He seems sincere, and seems like one of the few politicians who really cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madison View Post
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Krista.
    thank you for stating the obvious Madison I was just stating my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krista View Post
    I agree, I really like Joe. He seems sincere, and seems like one of the few politicians who really cares.
    Me too. I really like this man. My heart went out for him when he got a little choked up. I was just pulling for him to dig in and not break down. He really wears his heart on his sleeve which gets him into trouble sometimes, but I find him refreshing, even the gaffes. That's pretty amazing considering how long Biden's been working Washington. I thought he was supposed to be completely jaded by Washington.

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    I love this website.

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terri View Post
    I love this website.

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
    yeah my friend has been linking me that constantly during the election. they have pretty good methodology apparently.

    good news

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    Thumbsup Obama gaining crucial ground

    Obama gaining crucial ground

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...rucial_ground/

    With 31 days until the election, Democrat Barack Obama's road to the White House is widening, and Republican John McCain's electoral path is narrowing.
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    But McCain is in as bad or worse shape in other battleground states. Barring a dramatic change, he is on course to lose Iowa and New Mexico, both states barely won by President Bush four years ago in his narrow victory over Democrat John F. Kerry. And he and the Republican National Committee this week began pouring money into Indiana and North Carolina, reliably Republican states where the Obama campaign has made strong advances and polls indicate the candidates are roughly tied.


    You will have to read the rest your self, as it will get deleted if I put more here.

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    FYI, Palin's speeches today are saying that Obama is "palling around with terrorists," using both present tense and plural to make a reference to Obama's years-ago acquaintance with Bill Ayers.

    But, hey, if McCain is now condoning this type of campaigning, it's time for Obama to stop playing nice about McCain's Keating Five/S&L bailout pals & talk about who really has the friends who have waged economic terror with this country's past, present & future.

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    Read my posts in Shame on McSame and Sarah!

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    Thumbsup Bruce Springsteen PROVES he is truly,"The Boss" in Philadel

    Bruce Springsteen PROVES he is truly,"The Boss" in Philadelphia for Obama (Pictures)
    http://thisweekwithbarackobama.blogs...-trulythe.html

    Enjoy the photos.

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    Alert Poll: Obama by 7 in Ohio - THE NEW REPUBLIC

    Poll: Obama by 7 in Ohio
    http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_s...y-7-in-oh.aspx

    "It's Obama 49-42 over McCain according to a new Columbus Dispatch poll of 2262 likely Ohio voters with just a two-point margin of error. (The poll covers 9/24-10/2 and thus doesn't reflect the Biden-Palin debate.)

    Falling far behind in Ohio is a nightmare scenario for McCain; he almost surely can't win without it."


    So McSame has decided to go dirty. I noticed today that the photos of Obama have been made 'darker'.
    Really sad that McSame didn't get he message that what people REALLY want to hear about are substantial issues that affect them, not the negative crap that proves some lemmings in this country cannot think for themselves. Obviously, McSame can't. He just doen't get it that 960,000 jobs lost in the past year, and the deregulation of Wall Street businesses has nearly caused a depression-era collapse of the country.

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    This is a good read:

    Mary lacked money to fly home to Norway – he saved her love
    (Original Article written in Norweigian)

    ÅSGÅRDSTRAND (VG): Mary was a newlywed and ready to move to Norway, but was stopped at the airport because she didn’t have enough money for the trip. Then a stranger turned up and paid for her.

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    Veryhappy The Electoral map

    http://pollster.com/

    I can't help it, I just love looking at this electoral map.
    If the election is anything like this, it will look more like a landslide than a tightly contested race - NOT anymore


    http://pollster.com/blogs/poll_update/
    Last edited by madison; October 6th, 2008 at 01:11 AM.

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    Alert Exclusive: Obama to hit McCain on Keating Five

    Exclusive: Obama to hit McCain on Keating Five

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14302.html





    WHOA! Get ready for some serious fighting, especially since ENRON, then Wall Street just ripped off the people and our country for $700 Billion dollars. The Savings and Loan rip-off cost the taxpayers over $3.2 Billion dollars (in old-time money when the dollar was actually worth a dollar).
    McCain wants to get dirty? Ha! He hasn't got a clue, and he is WAY out of his league!


    Guess they meant like NOW:

    http://www.keatingeconomics.com/
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...keating04.html
    Last edited by madison; October 6th, 2008 at 01:25 AM.

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    guess that was the card he was waiting to play towards the end of the campaign

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