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    The funny thing is that people who don't follow skating can usually only name one skater, and it's Michelle Kwan. They just assume that she's won an Olympic gold medal. I talk to my classes about her, and while they know who she is, they truly don't know that she's never won Olympic gold. Then I ask them who *did* win, and they truly have no clue. Never heard the names Hughes, Lipinski, Arakawa. Doesn't mean a thing to them. Sasha Cohen--all they know is that guy that made the "Borat" novie .

    The blessing in disguise to me is that if Michelle had won in '98, she might have been tempted to "go pro" earlier, and we would have missed some amazing performances. It makes me wonder what amazing performances we're still going to see.

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    Some excellent thoughts by some excellent writers. I cannot put into words exactly why I like Michelle. But I too, have been watching Michelle's past performances more frequently now that the skating season has begun and Michelle right from the start had an "it" factor that I am not eloquent enough to put into words. She does the sames skills as everyone else and yes, some have performed and are performing more difficult combinations but something about how she does what she does draws my eye right to her no matter what she is doing!

    I feel similarly about Shannon Miller and Nadia Comaneci. I'd rather watch their compulsory routines from their Olympiads than the current optional routines of every female gymnast today.
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    [QUOTE=IzzyS;250150] Sasha Cohen--all they know is that guy that made the "Borat" novie .
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    Yesterday my niece, who is 24, and I were talking about Gilmore Girls, and I said that the girl who plays Rory sometimes reminds me of Sasha Cohen. I received a very odd look in return. "Borat?" she said, and I burst out laughing. It's true that people who don't follow figure skating still know who Michelle Kwan is, while they have little or no idea who the others are. It's the same with golf - Tiger Woods - or basketball - Michael Jordan. These are peopl who truly transcend their sports. Michelle is one special person among a very rare few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaurent View Post
    OGM is reseved for the very special. But Michelle has won enough competitions it opened the door for her in other areas.
    I don't think everyone that wins an OGM is necessarily in a very special class all by themselves. Some luck out because someone else fell that night. It would be interesting, if the world were perfect (which is isn't) but anyway, if everyone skated their very best then you would have a true OGM'ist. I think Sasha Cohen should have won this year but we know how that story ended. So did the "best" female skater win this year? No. But its a sport and thats reality in the sporting world.
    I think the very special are those what win national and world titles over a period of years. And there are very few figure skaters that belong in that class. Michelle Kwan is one of them.

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    Originally Posted by vaurent
    OGM is reseved for the very special. But Michelle has won enough competitions it opened the door for her in other areas.
    Yes and this board is reserved for the true Michelle Kwan fans.

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    I still dream about Michelle Kwan for 2010 with a gold medal around her neck. But it's just a dream. Her body has physically changed a lot.

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    It's okay iceangelica, you can continue to dream. I know I do. In fact, I award you a gold for your "very special" dream.

    Actually I give everyone an olympic gold because it is reserve for "the very special" and everyone here is very special

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    All dreams are possible. We can continue to pray for Michelle to continue if that is what she really wants. I too dream of it happening. I know one day I will have to stop dreaming if Michelle says she will not try again. I take small hope that the fact she has not said it so definitively about retiring, that perhaps she still harbors hope that she can continue as well. Perhaps she is waiting to see how her body recovers and if she can continue before making any kind of announcements regarding retiring or not. So all we can do right now is wait. All she can do right now is wait. I believe it will work out for the best no matter what. If it is intended for her to retire, then I cannot ask for more. She has given me so much already. If it is intended for her to continue to compete, you can be sure I will be sending many prayers for her to win the OLY Gold so she can say "Michelle Kwan- Olympic Gold Medalist."

    Only Heaven could send us such an angelic skater.

    "If you have nothing in life but a great friend, you're rich."- Michelle Kwan

    I'm looking at the world through Kwan-colored glasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaurent View Post
    OGM is reseved for the very special. But Michelle has won enough competitions it opened the door for her in other areas.
    First her shoes and skirt length... and now you say she isn't special. hahaha I swear you should do stand-up, man - you're too funny!
    No one in the history of this sport has been more special than MK. No one.

    I'm surprised that MKF (of all places) has a troll.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Seye View Post
    All dreams are possible. We can continue to pray for Michelle to continue if that is what she really wants. I too dream of it happening. I know one day I will have to stop dreaming if Michelle says she will not try again. I take small hope that the fact she has not said it so definitively about retiring, that perhaps she still harbors hope that she can continue as well. Perhaps she is waiting to see how her body recovers and if she can continue before making any kind of announcements regarding retiring or not. So all we can do right now is wait. All she can do right now is wait. I believe it will work out for the best no matter what. If it is intended for her to retire, then I cannot ask for more. She has given me so much already. If it is intended for her to continue to compete, you can be sure I will be sending many prayers for her to win the OLY Gold so she can say "Michelle Kwan- Olympic Gold Medalist."
    Very well said - I think all TRUE MK fans feel that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanette View Post
    Besides her extraordinary skating, MK's humility in victory...and grace and dignity in defeat help to define the champion that she is and the legend that she has become.Long before her silver in Nagano..she demonstrated fabulous sportswomanship..Think 94 Nats, 95 Worlds...and the 97 season...

    The Kween is in a Klass by herself...Just my HO, of course...
    Kwanette -- I completely agree!
    I too thought back to 95 Worlds when she skated a perfect program but came in 4th. When asked about not getting a medal she stated it didn't matter because in my heart I feel so good. You could see she meant every word of it by her facial expression and body language.

    and to Vaurent -- I haven't been in the forum much in the past months because I've been without a computer. As I browse through the threads and read your posts I wonder why you are here.

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    Prudence,
    I guess we always have to have some naysayers and I guess it takes rain to appreciate the sun just as it takes manure to appreciate the flowers that grow. Of course it would be nice if some people would use Miracle-Gro instead of manure.


    Lisa

    Only Heaven could send us such an angelic skater.

    "If you have nothing in life but a great friend, you're rich."- Michelle Kwan

    I'm looking at the world through Kwan-colored glasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Seye View Post
    Ummmm Michelle is the VERY SPECIAL. How many other OGM winners just disappeared from the FS map? How many have won as much as Michelle has won? The Olympics is another competition which some people place on a huge pedestal. The only difference is it occurs only every four years. So if it is an off night for a skater, that is tough. It is easy to falter once every four years. How hard is to it NOT falter year after year after year in World comps, Nats comps, Grand Prix comps, competing against the very same skaters as in the Olympics? How many of the most recent OGM winners can say they have been "on" in competition after competition after competition? Only Michelle in my eyes.


    Yet another backhanded compliment. Still cannot be gracious as Michelle teaches us daily.


    Very well said!!!!
    GO BRAVES!!!

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    Phil Hersh about Michelle: She's bigger than her sport.

    Sandra Bezic to Michelle: You are MUCH BIGGER than the Olympics.

    'nough said.
    This sport doesn't know how lucky it is to have had her in it. ~ Dick Button on Michelle Kwan, A&E Biography, 2004

    Michelle is a rock star. ~ Frank Carroll, 2006

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Seye View Post
    Prudence,
    I guess we always have to have some naysayers and I guess it takes rain to appreciate the sun just as it takes manure to appreciate the flowers that grow. Of course it would be nice if some people would use Miracle-Gro instead of manure.


    Lisa
    LOL you have a way with words Lisa
    Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what's right. ~Isaac Asimov

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    To answer the topic: If MK had won the gold in 1998, she probably would have retired like Tara Lipinski did.... or possibly in 2002. Either way her career would be several years shorter, instead of being "stretched" to 2006. She'd certainly have fewer medals round her neck, and not hold the title:

    - Most-decorated U.S. skater.

    IMHO

    Last edited by electrictroy; October 10th, 2017 at 10:52 PM.

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    To answer the topic: If MK had won the gold in 1998, she probably would have retired like Tara Lipinski did.... or possibly in 2002. Either way her career would be several years shorter, instead of being "stretched" to 2006. She'd certainly have fewer medals round her neck, and not hold the title:

    - Most-decorated U.S. skater.

    IMHO
    I quite agree. Look at the masterpieces she produced after 2002, such as 2003 Worlds Aranjuan, 2004 Nationals Tosca, and the Felling Begins short.
    Last edited by Mathman2; October 9th, 2017 at 10:42 PM.

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