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    Default Two years ago tonight...history was made

    and a legend was born. I wasn't a pc user then...so please share your feelings about seeing Michelle perform to Lyra Angelica at the 1998 Nationals.

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    AWWW Kwanette thank you for reminding us of this anniversary! I think that's when I became a DIE HARD fan. Don't get me wrong I was a MK fan before but after that I had to get MK books, and MK magazines, and MK posters, and MK fabric softener and and you get the idea! Well honestly I don't remember watching it live too much. I remember I was really nervous! I remember that last 3 toe and it was over and I probably had tears in my eyes. After that I re-watched it over and over up till the Olympics.

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    KellyW Guest

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    It was one of the greatest feelings I have felt. I was in awe of Michelle after her LP. It was live, and I didn't know the results and she skated so free and proud! What a great night! Kelly

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    Oh my goodness kwanette... Let's see. I was totally a new fan. I remember being kind of interested in Michelle after reading a brief article about her and Tara in People. I told myself that I was going to watch because I used to be a pretty big fan of gymnastics (around the Olys only and never big enough to tape) and just female "teen" sports in general. I missed the short programs and heard TONS about it on channel 7 afterwards... I thought to myself, that was the Kwan girl I wanted to see (I had never seen her skate). The show went off showing her do her spiral and I was so bummed like, man, this will never air again! I was determined to get the long program, but I had to go out during the time that it would air. I left a tape running and returned home to look at it. I watched the whole thing. I mean from the Andrea Gardiner group on down! LOL! I had no idea of Kwan's down year in 97... I remembered vaguely Tara winning over Kwan sometime last year because I remembered her white dress from Sense and Sensibility... but again, extremely casual fan/viewer, I think I was on the phone or something. Anyway the final group was warming up and I saw Kwan and was like, oh yeah, there she is, I want HER to win. I had already decided I didn't like Tara because of the article I read in People... Can't remember the article, but I know that she had beaten MK. I watched all of the skaters and was like oh this is a great competition (even as a novice I knew that!). Then MK came up to skate. I remember not even breathing while she skated... My heart was like.. like... in my throat! I kept thinking to myself, no one skates like this... nobody. I had watched Yamaguchi and Debbi Thomas years before (again casually), but I knew what I was witnessing was special. It was only when she skated into her finishing pose that I released my breath and was just smiling from ear to ear. I remember thinking, I didn't feel this way when I watched the other ones skate. She made me feel something. I was totally mesmerized and enchanted the whole 4 minutes. I fast forwarded past the commercials so I could see her scores. When all of the sixes came up I was like WOW! Ok, I wasn't the only one... She was the bomb! I remember being so happy that I got this on tape! It became my mission in life to get every performance (major) she had ever put down (which I did!) LOL! --ct

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    AYS Guest

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    Well, I remember the tears, and how excited both D!ck Button and I both were...but it's hard to separate anything else I remember about it from the numerous times I've rewatched it since:-)

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    ellie Guest

    Default '98 Nationals

    Up until '98 nationals I was only a mediocre skating fan. I would watch it if I noticed it was on, but I was never like "I have to see this" After seeing Michelle's SP I had to make sure I watched the LP too. I don't remember exactly what I was thinking while she was skating, but I do know that by the end I had goosebumps, and tears in my eyes. I have been a die-hard Michelle, and skating fan ever since that night.

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    Default Re: '98 Nationals

    Kwanette! Thank You! Like ellie, I too was only a mediocre skating fan. Other than the Olympics, I only watched if I happened to know it was on. Anyways, I did find out about the Nationals long program and wanted to see who would make the Olympic team. I had to tape it since we had guests over (almost all guys) and I remember turning it on to sneak a peak. OH MY GOD! was the first thing that popped into my mind when I could think again. She was just so beautiful, so perfect, so mesmerizing. She made me cry with the beauty and joy of her program. No other skater had ever had this impact on me (I never did see Janet Lynn) and I suspect that no one will again. That's when I became a die hard fan of Michelle Kwan.

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    I've been a skating fan for years. But never really of any particular skater, just of the sport. Before 98' Nationals, I was rooting for Tara. I liked Michelle allrigt, I was just in awe of Tara's technical ability. (Keep in mind that I am a fan of the technical part of the sport). But after watching the 98' nationals, I started to lean more towards Michelle. It was just that her program was sooo inspiring, and....oh I don't know.....magical. It touched me, like no other program had. I ended up watching that program over and over and over. I just couldn't get enough of it. And that is when I started to avidly follow Michelle's work. It was really at the 98 oly when I made the big leap from Tara to Michelle. Michelle had done so well, and hadn't won. I still believe that Tara very deservedly won the Oly, but when Michelle won the silver, I realized how much I was really rooting for her to win the gold. She handled it so well. Every decision that she makes, and every new program that she comes out with reaffirmes my faith that she is truly a sweetheart. Everything from staying amateur, to trying to lead a normal life in LA, to her ADITL program. I am in awe of everything she does.

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    Lara F Guest

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    Well, my own story is going to be pretty different unfortunately. That week in January will forever be remembered by me because of the ice storm that hit Eastern Canada and New England. The power was out in most parts of Montreal for several days (even weeks for some residents). I was lucky enough to have been able to stay at a friend of my mother where there was power...but no cable. So I contented myself with the Canadian Nats, where they reported on Michelle's wonderful skate. But I never saw it until the following summer, when someone from FSW (who was probably about the only person NOT to lose cable) gave me a tape. I really wonder sometimes how I would have felt about Nagano had I seen that performance beforehand. So Karin, Francois and CaptCanada...where were you then LOL? Lara Michele :-)

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    CaptCanada Guest

    Default freezing my butt off, LOL!

    I was 10 days without power during the ice storm, but we got cable back before the olympics. We froze for a few days at home, and then went to stay with some family friends of Praveen's (my bf and now fiance) when they cut our gas off (we had a gas stove and that's why we were able to tough it out for so long). In fact, I didn't really get hit with the skating bug until after Nagano. I was just mesmerized by the pairs and Michelle and LuLu. Stupid me didn't even tape it and ended up getting the coverage from a very kind FSWer who also made me tapes of Karen Kwan's nationals performances. I didn't get the Nationals performances until someone on CBS sportsline made a kwan tape and I paid for a copy. I think I cried a little when Michelle lost...but now I mostly just remember how graceful in defeat Michelle was, and how beautiful and vulnerable she looked standing on the podium. I was very touched at how she still sang the anthem (and I'm not even American!). I'm glad I saw Nats 98 after the olmpics. Made me feel better to know that she had an almost olympic moment that season.

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    Default Ah! :-)

    kwanette! You read my mind! I was listening to the radio this morning at 6am when they said today was January 10, 2000, and all of a sudden a light bulb went off in my head. And I instantly couldn't believe the short program slipped my mind on Jan 8 (a day that means even more to me). Lets see, it was close to the ending of the best week of my life. At this time it was just ending, and we were at the CoreStates Center anxious for the awards ceremony, with a sore throat and sore hands from clapping so much. *sigh* a great time. :-) I wish you were online at that time so we could have met! ;-)

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    Rene Guest

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    I had to go to see one of my husbands shows. I put on my vcr and checked it about 100 times before I left. We fianlly got home at 4AM. I had to work at 9:00 but I didn't care. I put in that tape at 4:00am in the dark and sat with a sick upset stomach. I just started crying and crying when I saw the spiral before the 3toe and I couldn't stop crying and I watched it for another hour over and over. My husband came in and yelled at me that I was being ridiculos, but I don't care it was worth it. Everytime I thought about it at work the next day I started to cry. I still get the same feeling 2 years later. I have a confession to make. I put an Italian curse on Tara before I left that night! I feel really bad about it now but I don't really believe in curses anyway. I'm glad she didn't fall that night because I would have felt awful!I'm glad she skated great that night too.

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    Default I was one of those without regular power

    I live in southern Maine and if we didn't have a generator we wouldn't have been able to stay at home. My poor Dad had to go out ever 1 1/2 or so to feed it as he wouldn't let Mom or I do it until he and our neighbor figured a way to rig up connection to a 5 gallon tank of gas to feed the generator. That came AFTER Nationals so there I was tape in the VCR, all the lights out so I had enough power to run the TV, VCR and furnace and me begging Dad to PLEASE go out and feed the generator on the long end of hour news break so it wouldn't die in the middle of MK's program!! I bundle up and go out and hold the flashlights for Dad so he can see what he is doing, and I think it was snowing then. Anyhow we made it back in for the skating and nothing got lost :-) I actually had the best reception of ABC ever then - I guess the low think snow clouds helped us get it...... Normally it is horribly fuzzy and now we get ABC on Primestar. The only thing is my tape is a little dark ;- I became a fan of Michelle back during 94' Nationals and became a Major Fan during her 95-96 season not just because she was winning everything in site but because of her **attitude** and LOVE for the sport. I was SOOOOO devastated when Michelle had that broken toe, I was afraid that was it, no National medal & no olys but she came out and just blew me (and everyone else) away :-) I don't think I cried but I had a huge grin glued to my face despite having to wash my then waist length hair in a bucket and other little trials of being without full power :-)

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    Default I was on the plane

    Yeah, but I was so wondering what happened, the first thing I did when I got back to school was that I turned on the TV. I saw the news, she was on!! And I saw the clip from the last few seconds of the LP including the triple toe. I knew that was the jump that hurt her foot, and I saw her raising her head, proud at the audience...and at fate when she landed that jump with ease, I started crying right there. She did it! She came through her fear and she won despite what other people said. I was a fan of hers back in the 1995 when she was in fourth place at World's. I thought that performance was a beauty, it was sparkling with joy, that was the moment she stole my heart...that little girl with the pony tail in pink dress. I knew that moment a bright star of figure skating was born...and boy was I right!

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    Default Can't stop smiling

    I love these kinds of topics, they make me feel so good inside. Wonderful posts. Unfortunately, I didn't see MK's '98 National performances live. I remember I caught my by chance, the season before. I saw her once and I was instantly drawn to her skating. I don't remember the comp., but she fell a lot and I was actually hurting inside. I followed her skating once more that season and I was so chicken I couldn't even watch it. I had my younger brother watch it for me while I waited for her to finish her lp. I remember the first thing I asked him was, "Did she fall?" He said yes, and I didn't bother watching skating again and again I felt that sharp pain in my chest. I caught the '98 Nationals' ladies' short programs by chance. I saw Tara fall on the 3flip and was shocked. I didn't see MK skate because I didn't know she was in that comp. I don't remember her long program all too well, the only distinct part I remember was when MK does those sort of wing-flapping moves out of her y-spin. My big moment actually came during the Olympics. I wish I had a better story to tell, but I don't. Upon watching MK's historic performance on tape a year later, however, I shared in the exact same joy that all of you felt.

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    Default I love them all

    I am sitting here...6:00 AM reading your stories and I am misty-eyed....I had forgotten about that ice-storm...I had feared that for the two years prior that we had ordered our tickets, that something like that would happen in Phila. Amazingly, the weather was beautiful most of the week for a Jan in Phila.Heather, I agree that in many ways the sp was so much more special because we had no idea what she would do with the toe and she didn't come to practice that morning...I was there at 8:00 to see it....there were rumors that she wouldn't even skate....After the sp, I knew what had to happen for Michelle not to win...But it wasn't about winning, it was about topping perfection a second time. She did that....Sometimes I reread the description of the sp and lp in Edge of Glory and I close my eyes and picture Lori, Brian, and janet Lynn watching Michelle. it was a special time, as I have said to you a million times before....Thanks for sharing these great stories......

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    Default '98 Nationals

    I was so privileged to be able to see the ladies LP live. When Michelle skated, I could feel my heart pounding in my chest. I don't think I took a breath for the entire 4+ minutes. When she finished, I looked at my sister in law and we were both sobbing. It was so so so wonderful. One of the top ten experiences in my life. You could just "feel" her skate....I don't even know if I could describe it. I was sitting up in the nose bleed section, and I still was completely mesmerized. I've been a figure skating fan for a long time. No other program has ever made me feel that way..

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    Morning everyone, nice thread. I remember that night; I learned a lesson big time. I was very ill with the flu and was watching with the intention of recording Michelle's skate. Michelle & Elvis, by the way, in 1993, are the reason I became an avid figure skating fan. I'd developed a bad habit of always taping Michelle and only a few other select skaters. No ladies skater held any interest for me that night and when I heard "When we return, Michelle Kwan will take the ice" I got my little remote ready and waited. The next thing I knew it was 6am and I started freaking, hitting rewind/play/forward, desperately looking on my tape for what I knew, deep down, wasn't there. My family thought I was crazy and couldn't understand what I was so upset about. I open the sports page and showed them the picture, article w/results and said "this, this is what I missed". They were "whatever, why don't you go back to bed and try and get some rest". I'm sure many of you have had to deal with those kind of remarks so I won't repeat here what I told them. I remember going to work on Monday and everyone was saying "your girl did great" and feeling humiliated when I had to tell them what happened. Me, the Kwan freak missed it. Most of the people I work with care nothing about figure skating, or any sports for that matter, and watched only because I bugged them about it so much. Fortunately at the exhibitions they replayed her skate and I recorded it then. I now record even if I don't care about a skater just to make sure something like this never happens again.

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    It's funny... I remember even what I was doing when I watched it! I was slaving over a project for pre-calculus on the number "e", and it was the kind of teacher who wanted everything to be big and beautiful and colorful, so I was pasting all sorts of stuff on huge neon poster-boards! Anyways, it was on TV, and Michelle came on to skate and I put everything down and was pinned to the screen! I was so nervous for her because of hte injury, and I remember being a little scared because the short program didn't involve her injured toe, and the long program did! So she starts her program, I'm holding my breath for every jump she made, and once she did the salchow, which I knew hurt her, I kidna relaxed and watched her finish the program with that look of absolute joy after the second triple lutz... and I remember that face she had on when she finished her last spiral almost as if to say SHE didn't even believe what she was doing! I was in awe, and when those 6.0's came up, I was like "WOW!" I then begged my dad to let me use the internet and I went online where a bunch of us Michelle Kwan fans on the net at the time met in private room "Michelle Kwan" like we had used to do every Friday night (remember that anyone?? LOL), and we all just gushed over how amazing it was for a good hour or so! It was a great night! (And I got a great grade on that project-- the teacher still has some of my posters!) -Heather :-D <A HREF=http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/3143/michelle.html>http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/3143/michelle.html</A>

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    Valerie Guest

    Default Appreciating the reminder!

    Thank you so very much for the reminder. I can reminisce that night; I began to have tears in my eyes around the "Janet Lynn" part of the program. Then I burst into tears of joy after the second triple lutz was completed beautifully. At the very instance Michelle landed that second triple toe and she ever so gently flipped her hands upwards toward the "sky", I jumped up and screamed "she won she won. Michelle Kwan has won!" I finally settled down when Michelle posed for the ending with her "angelic wings". It's most certainly incredible to me, that even after 2 years, even the simple thought of that night still has the power to move me.

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    Karin Guest

    Default LOL...

    Me bad!!!...I forgot!!! And I was so busy yesterday...lectures resumed!!! :-( ...that I didn't get on-line!!! Now I still say I hope that...one day...may be at the 2002 Olympics...MK will show us the 6.0 6.0 6.0 6.0 6.0 6.0 6.0 6.0 6.0...I hope so!!!

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    Rene Guest

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    Just had to say Happy Birthday Kwanette, fellow Capricorn!

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    eilaram Guest

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    I was so nervous sitting there watching it on tv. All I could think of was 97 Nationals( which was made worse by the fact that brother and sister were watching it and my brother only cheers when skaters fall so during her performance he was laughing at Michelle and my sister was laughing at me for getting upset) AND I was very scared of a repeat. My heart was pounding, I held my breath throughout the whole program. It did not make me cry, but made me very impressed and mesmerized. I was a die-hard fan before that, but I have never really thought about recording her programs. The disappointment of not having it recorded to watch again caused me to start recording all of her performances.

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    I will always remember that performance. I got to go to nationals that year because it was so close to where I live, and I wouldn't trade the experience of seeing her skate to Lyra there for anything. Andrew

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    I will always remember that performance. I got to go to nationals that year because it was so close to where I live, and I wouldn't trade the experience of seeing her skate to Lyra there for anything. Andrew

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