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    Default Celebrity

    Maybe I'd tire of a life full of frequent gifts and expressions of love and appreciation, but I'm willing to try it for a few months if the rest of you will play along!

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    No fan ever took pictures of MK at a basketball game and posted them on the net. It was Getty Images, a media outlet, who took those pictures and posted them on their OWN SITE, and they are always taking pictures of every celebrity. So you need to come up with something better as proof that she is "weirded out" by her fans.
    It's true that the pictures were never taken by a fan, but the person interviewing Michelle didn't clarify that, and made it sound like a fan HAD taken the pictures and then posted them on the net. So who knows what impression Michelle came away with. Personally, if I was a celebrity and random people were posting pictures of me on the net (meaning not professional photographers), I would be weirded out, too.

    Vicky, thanks for posting your story. I'm glad that you made such a wonderful memory and that meeting Michelle went so well, and your story just shows once again what a wonderful, gracious, classy lady she is.

    As for the gift issue, I think what everyone has posted has been really interesting, and honestly, I've never really thought much about it before. In the end, I think the gifting issue is less about whether the skater keeps it and more about the the expression of support that the gift represents. I know that Michelle doesn't keep all the gifts we send her - she probably keeps very few of them - but I'm sure, at fan-oriented events like the autograph sessions at COI and at events, that it's enjoyable for her to know that people are thinking of her. I'm positive her self-esteem doesn't ride on fan reaction, but she's always very genuine in her thanks and also genuine in her joyful reactions to fan support, so I would think that she does appreciate it all even if it's not the most important part of her life.

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    Default Gift of CDs

    At the risk of opening a new can of worms, what do you all think about giving a few CDs backstage at COI? I have prepared one edited long program, a compilation CD that I call "Songs for and Inspired by Michelle Kwan," and a CD of a local girl who has carved a bit of a niche for herself in the vocal jazz world. Some of the songs are things I think she might like to skate to, others that she might just want to listen to on the bus. Think she'll keep it? Or will she think I'm presumptuous to present her with possible music to skate to? She's coming to town in a couple of weeks and I hope to get my chance to meet her then.

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    I think a special CD would be a thoughtful gift but I don't think I'd present it as potential program music for her. That seems a little pushy to me. I'd just tell her what you said-that the compilation was inspired by her, and the artist was a local. Then make sure that the song list had plenty of artist info on in case she wanted to use any of it. That way she could get in touch with the singer if she wanted to. But that's just me.

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    tmi

  6. Default Gifts

    It was just a freakin' TOOTHBRUSH and a box of candy! Why does it have to be a world shattering issue?

    Vicky,
    I'm so glad you met Michelle and got to give her a gift! Don't let the negative energy bring you down! Rock on!

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    If Michelle had kept every teddy bears, dolls, bunnies, roses, flowers of every kind, CDs, t-shirts, pins, photos, hats, edible gifts and every "a fan showing their affection for the spectacular skating and heart of Michelle" souveniers *gasps*, our dear Michelle would have drowned from so much love and affection.


    Like, even I feel wierded out about myself too. Like, I am SO wierd that before like,I step out of my door, I have to take my daily dosage of like EOE, Salome, Romanza, Lyra, Rach, Shez, SOTBS, RV, Aranjuez, TFB, Tosca, Winter. Otherwise, I will be like you know, the bride of like Frankenstein, you know! Like WIERD! (with a valley girl accent):rollin

    Vicky it's okay I would have probably given her a dental floss too.:rollin She needs to keep that adorable sparkling smile healty, now.

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    Default In regards to the bodyguards...

    when I saw Michelle after COI in Dallas a few years ago (this was the last year Brian Boitano toured with COI) she walked up a ramp to the street where Mr. Boitano's private bus was and she was accompanied by two bodyguards.

    So I don't think this is anything new or related to recent occurrences. I would imagine bodyguards are provided sometimes by stadium security and sometimes she might hire them herself or they could be included in her COI contract.

    In any event it's a comforting thought to know that she is looked after.

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    Default "HI" from Michelle!

    I like teeth.

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    bwheeler, Many of the elite skaters have had arena security with them. I have a pic of Michelle leaving the practice ice at the 98 Nats. There is a (then) Corestates security person right behind her.(He's in my pic, too). Also in 98, Tara was sitting in the stands to watch the men's sp. There was an arena security person standing right behind her.

    So, you are right. This is nothing new.

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    I agree about the cd's. I think they are a lovely idea and she'll appreciate them, especially the local singer. In any event, I'm sure she'll appreciate the thought that went into the fgift.

    For a slight aside, I have a vague recollection of a story in one of Christine Brennan's books in which Brian B. asked Janet Lynn if she still hears music and thinks about whether and how you could skate to it and she said she still does, even after not skating for this many years. Does anyone else remember this story and am I recalling it correctly?

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    Vicky, congratulations on meeting Michelle Sounds like you had a wonderful time. I'm sure Michelle appreciated your very unique gift -- even if she'll never use it or keep it.

    Remember the time (in an interview, I think) when Michelle was asked about the most interesting gifts she's ever received? She responded that a woman in China (I think) threw a suit out onto the ice -- and it fit!

    All I can say is, if you give a gift from the heart, it never goes to waste.

    lemonade16

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    Yaz said:

    VCW: Pardon me if I don't agree with YOUR translation of my motive for entering this thread. I was just bringing up my opinion, which is exactly what you were doing, right? -- considering you jump into these threads we participate in just as much as you claim we do. I'd say we're just both exercising our right to an opinion. This has been an interesting thread, and its been pretty civil despite differing opinions on things. I'm glad Vicky had a nice experience with Michelle. Things like that make good memories.

    Ok Yaz time to use some of that logic on yourself. I can count very few threads I have jumped in the 6 months. For the most part I keep out of it but it makes you feel better to rationalize my opinion. Think about it for a second. Maybe you should go back to all the recent threads you guys have jumped in and see whether my participation was an issue. That being said, I think that the original poster was unfairly junked on. As usual you ignored the fact that I gave you props for making a decent point. I just don't agree with the way Peach came in and insulted somebody for no decent reason. You can say what you want but her comments in this thread have been patronizing and rude. Considering that Vicky is a nice person do you honestly think she deserves that treatment? I am asking you as a person not as a board member or ally of another poster.

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    How the heck does a thread that is meant to tell the forum Michelle said "Hi" and to share an experience, downgrade to this? sheesh ...:rolleyes

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    Well, VCW, I didn't consider Peach's intial post rude, quite frankly. It wasn't an attack on Vicky--just a point brought up from someone who has a bit more experience working skating events than the average skating fan or poster. We'll have to simply disagree on this one.

    As to the giving of CD's, I'm a skater, and personally, I'd be totally wierded out if someone I didn't know handed me an edited piece of music for a program!!!!! Maybe just present the CD with the idea of "this music made me think of you?" That said, its always nice to find new sources of music, especially "unknown" artists. My current artistic program music is by a Cuban club musician from Miami who is not nationally known. You can find some great stuff by checking out local artists.

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    Y'all are aware they throw all that stuff out, right?
    No, I wasn't aware of that, but thanks for letting us know. :b And I'm glad that I didn't know that when I gave my gift for Xue Shen (a blank journal with "Courage" in Chinese script on the cover) to one of the COI staffers in Chicago. Maybe he didn't even bother to give it to her (though he said he would get it to her in few minutes); it kind of makes sense that he'd save her the trouble of throwing it in the trash herself, right? Though I do like to think that maybe she at least was able to read the card I had a friend translate into Chinese for me last year at Worlds. I was so moved by her performance in D.C. that I just had to try to tell her how magnificent I thought she had been. Since I wasn't able to make connections at the Worlds Gala, I just kept it hoping that someday I would have a chance to get it to her. Anyway, even if she never read the card, at least I am pleased that I made the attempt to let her know how much her skating (and her strength and courage) had moved me. If she did read the card and it gave her a little pleasure, then it would have been a "win-win" situation. And who knows, maybe some writer-wannabe was working on the United Center janitorial staff and fished the journal out of the trash. That would make it a "win-win-win" as far as I'm concerned. I think putting out positive things into the universe can only be for the good.

    Vicky, thank you for sharing your story -- it sounds as if Michelle appreciated your gesture -- including the Junior Mints!

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    The person that said they throw it in the trash has no proof of that. Don't take that to heart. Many of the skaters keep things fans give them. Michelle has said she keeps some of the stuffed animals from special competitions. Don't let others drag you down. Im sure they appreciate many of the gifts people give them.

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    I guess the tone of my post wasn't clear -- I should have included a few more and :b I guess. I'm not at all "down" -- because even IF peachstatesk8er is correct and "they throw All that stuff away" I had spun out several hypothetical (if far-fetched) scenarios where it was all good. Heck, it doesn't really matter if Xue got the gift or card, though I might prefer to know that my message to her was received. It was important that I say it -- no strings attached as to how or even whether it was ever received. I will never know what really happened to it once it left my hands, but it doesn't matter at all. It is no longer sitting in my house -- and my intent of sending it to Xue has been fulfilled.

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    What a lovely gesture on your part for Xue. That was so thoughtful. Wonderful story.

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    Well, VCW, I didn't consider Peach's intial post rude, quite frankly
    Give me a break. Vicky was talking about giving her favorite a few small gifts and Peach decided to point out that her gift would be thrown out. You're not fooling anybody but yourself. If someone did something like that to one of your family members and burst their balloon in a totally unnecessary way you would be livid. Frankly I am curious as to why you are so staunchly defending something that was so unnecessary. There was zero reason for anybody here (not just Peach) to criticize Vicky's small tokens of appreciation accept acrimony.

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    Skatingfan5, what a lovely story. A number of the MKFrs got to meet Xue when they were at Worlds this year and were very touched by how kind and thoughtful she and Hongbo were. Even though it was harder to communicate because of language issues, they were able to convey how much they loved their skating and they responded with very warm hugs and smiles. I'm sure that if she got your gift she was very touched by it - it sounds extremely thoughtful and lovely.

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    Vicky, you had a cool moment with the Kween and had the opportunity to give her some pretty unique and clever gifts. Good for you!

    My take on this is pretty simple. Whenever Michelle, or any skater makes a public appearance and is in a position to give autographs and/or receive gifts like a backstage receiving line, exiting practice, book signing, etc...then why not?

    What's really wrong with it. Absolutely nothing at all.

    My God, for years, one of the mainstays of MKF has been the fun of reading everyone's unique and exciting experiences either at competitions, shows, or other public events Michelle has attended. We all laugh, get excited, and even sometimes cry at the really special things that have happened between a fan and Michelle.

    I feel this is becoming more and more rare because to me it seems that lately the "fun" is being taken out of these threads. :\ Please realize, I'm not discounting any of these comments, just noting that as a recent fact more and more of these comments are being made about what not to do, what we should be doing, how pointless it all is, etc... and in some cases comments are being made speculating what Michelle is thinking or what she SHOULD be thinking about her fans.

    This all just seems strange to me. (shrug)

    We're all here for the fun of it, right?

    That is supposed to be the point I think. I don't know, but to me this is what it's all about, and I know I will keep that focus. I encourage people to continue to post their stories because I will want to read all the fun and touching stories, and if given the opportunity, I will say "Hello" to Michelle and hand her a gift, not because I think she needs it, but just because it's something I want to do, for her and myself as a fan.



    *edited for scary spelling...lol*

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    Well said Kwanluv

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    I have a Michelle gift story that I don't think I've told before (sorry if I have).

    I was one of the MKFers who were able to be in the audience when Michelle guest hosted The View in April 2003. Many pictures were taken as you can imagine. GoldBlossom88 and Valentine BD were also in attendance

    When the MKF group was at SA in Reading in October 2003, GoldBlossom mentioned to ValentineBD and me that she had been thinking about putting together an album of pictures from The View for Michelle so that she would have a memory of this event and would ValentineBD and me like to work on it with her (I do some scrap booking). We thought we could get it to Michelle at Nationals somehow. We decided to do this together and we met at my apt. in early December and pooled our pictures and we put together a nice (if I do say so myself) scrapbook. It was further decided that since I was going to arrive at Nationals before they did, that I would try to get the album to Michelle. I approached Shep Goldberg with the album on Tuesday after a practice and asked him if he would give it to Michelle. He asked that I mail it to his office since this was a very hectic week for Michelle and he would be sure she got it. I said fine, no problem.

    I called GB and VBD and told them how things had turned out which was fine with them; VBD was actually quite happy since she had never seen the finished scrapbook and she could now see it when she got to Atlanta (they were arriving on Thursday morning).

    The three of us went to the practice at Gwinnett on Friday altho we went separately. I had told them I would bring the album to the practice so that VBD could look thru it there. While we were there, Gold Blossom had the idea of giving it to Michelle after the practice if Michelle signed autographs the way the other skaters had been doing. So GB got in the autograph line and gave Michelle the scrapbook, telling it was to give her a memory of a happy day in her life to thank her for all the happy days she had given us. Or something very sweet like that. Michelle was very gracious and said, Aaawwww, thank you! GB was thrilled, of course!

    The next morning, Saturday, was the free skate practice back at Philips. GB sat over the tunnel with others from MKF. When Michelle finished the practice, she must have noticed GB sitting over the tunnel and recognized her from the previous day and said right up to her, "Thanks for the book; I love it" and she opened her palms to signify a book!

    I don't know if GB has yet to come down from Kloud Kwan!

    GB, VBD and I like to think that maybe on the ride back from Gwinnett, Michelle looked thru the scrapbook and remembered her day on The View and had a tiny distraction from the pressure of competing at Nationals. No one will ever convince me in 1000 years that Michelle didn't appreciate the scrapbook we put together for her. I have no idea what she has since done with it but I like to think that for at least a few minutes, Michelle was grateful for this gift from a few of her fans.

    (And my apologies to Gold Blossom and ValentineBD for outing their gift giving!)

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    graciesfriend, that scrapbook for Michelle was beautiful. And I was there over the tunnel with you when MK thanked GoldBlossom..I thought that it was terrific...and I guessing that Michelle thought so, too.

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