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Sandy
March 28th, 2000, 11:53 PM
I got this from FSW, i will stay up all nite to get the latest report!! Stay tuned!!

After the 1st two groups, with the 3rd group started, the standings are as follows:
I wish they would show Robinson and Hughes marks! I'd like to know so we can better view ho wthey skated!
1 Sarah HUGHES USA
2 Jennifer ROBINSON CAN
3 Yoshie ONDA JPN
4 Silvia FONTANA ITA
5 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB
6 Siyin SUN CHN
7 Marion KRIJGSMAN NED
8 Mojca KOPAC SLO
9 Anna WENZEL AUT
10 Nicole SKODA SUI
11 Young-Eun CHOI

[This message has been edited by Taddy (edited March 29, 2000).]

Sandy
March 29th, 2000, 12:12 AM
here are the marks now after angela had skated. It is not shown here, but Vanessa Gusmeroli just skated and she is currently in fourth place behind jennifer robinson of canada! I can't wait for MK to skate!!!

1 Sarah HUGHES USA 0.4 1
2 Angela NIKODINOV USA 0.8 2
3 Jennifer ROBINSON CAN 1.2 3
4 Yoshie ONDA JPN 1.6 4
5 Silvia FONTANA ITA 2.0 5
6 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 2.4 6
7 Siyin SUN CHN 2.8 7
8 Marion KRIJGSMAN NED 3.2 8
9 Mojca KOPAC SLO 3.6 9
10 Anna WENZEL AUT 4.0 10
11 Nicole SKODA SUI 4.4 11
12 Young-Eun CHOI KOR 4.8 12
13 Helena PAJOVIC YUG 5.2 13

SPl. Name Nat. Points NED SUI ITA NOR ROM BEL HUN
1 Sarah HUGHES USA 0.4 5.3 5.4 5.4 5.2 5.4 5.1 5.4
5.4 5.4 5.6 5.2 5.7 5.3 5.4
10.7 10.8 11.0 10.4 11.1 10.4 10.8
1 1 1 1 1 2 2

2 Angela NIKODINOV USA 0.8 5.2 5.4 5.2 4.6 4.8 5.1 5.3
5.2 5.3 5.0 4.7 4.7 5.5 5.5
10.4 10.7 10.2 9.3 9.5 10.6 10.8
2 2 4 3 3 1 1

3 Jennifer ROBINSON CAN 1.2 5.0 5.3 5.3 5.0 4.6 5.0 5.3
5.1 5.3 5.2 5.1 4.8 5.2 5.3
10.1 10.6 10.5 10.1 9.4 10.2 10.6
3 3 2 2 4 3 3

Sandy
March 29th, 2000, 12:28 AM
Michelle is in first place now!! However, it seems that it wasn't her best performance (maybe one fall). As you can see, she had tech score as low as 5.5 and presentation score as low as 5.6. Irina is next!!

SPl. Name Nat. Points NED SUI ITA NOR ROM BEL HUN
1 Michelle KWAN USA 0.4 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.5 5.6 5.6 5.5
5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.6
11.5 11.5 11.5 11.2 11.5 11.4 11.1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1

Sandy
March 29th, 2000, 12:32 AM
Ok here are the result now, irina is in first <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP--> I'm terribly disappointed, but i know that this would only make Michelle more determined in the short and long program! GO MK AND GIVE IT YOUR ALL!!

1 Irina SLUTSKAYA RUS 0.4 1
2 Michelle KWAN USA 0.8 2
3 Sarah HUGHES USA 1.2 3
4 Angela NIKODINOV USA 1.6 4
5 Jennifer ROBINSON CAN 2.0 5
6 Vanessa GUSMEROLI FRA 2.4 6
7 Yoshie ONDA JPN 2.8 7
8 Silvia FONTANA ITA 3.2 8
9 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 3.6 9
10 Ivana JAKUPCEVIC CRO 4.0 10
11 Siyin SUN CHN 4.4 11
12 Marion KRIJGSMAN NED 4.8 12
13 Mojca KOPAC SLO 5.2 13
14 Anna WENZEL AUT 5.6 14
15 Nicole SKODA SUI 6.0 15
16 Young-Eun CHOI KOR 6.4 16
17 Helena PAJOVIC YUG 6.8 17

kwanluv
March 29th, 2000, 12:32 AM
Irina's in the lead <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP--> But only by a little, the judges almost split!!!

AYS
March 29th, 2000, 12:43 AM
Did anyone get Irina's marks? I just got up and they're not showing them on icecalc right now.
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kwanette
March 29th, 2000, 12:49 AM
Oh......I was sooo hoping!

AYS
March 29th, 2000, 12:50 AM
Someone on FSW said it was a 5-2 split for Irina. MK's marks suggest that it was either not clean and/or non 3/3<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP-->

AYS
March 29th, 2000, 12:55 AM
On a somewhat brighter note, it seems that Hughes and Nikodinov must have both skated pretty well.

kwanluv
March 29th, 2000, 12:56 AM
Irina's marks were:
tech: 5.6 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.8 5.7
art : 5.7 5.8 5.8 5.6 5.8 5.7 5.8
2 1 1 1 2 1 1


Michelle's were:
tech: 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.5 5.6 5.6 5.5
art : 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.6
1 2 2 2 1 2 2


soooooclose. MK won on artistry but not in tech. I wonder if she fell and/or didn't do her 3/3. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP-->

AYS
March 29th, 2000, 12:58 AM
And here are Sarah's results so far (still have Volchkova to skate)

SPl. Name Nat. Points NED SUI ITA NOR ROM BEL HUN

3 Sarah HUGHES USA 1.2
5.3 5.4 5.4 5.2 5.4 5.1 5.4
5.4 5.4 5.6 5.2 5.7 5.3 5.4
10.7 10.8 11.0 10.4 11.1 10.4 10.8
3 3 3 3 3 4 4

kwanluv
March 29th, 2000, 12:59 AM
Will these be the same judges for the SP and LP????

AYS
March 29th, 2000, 01:01 AM
Sarah HUGHES USA 1.2 5.3 5.4 5.4 5.2 5.4 5.1 5.4
5.4 5.4 5.6 5.2 5.7 5.3 5.4
10.7 10.8 11.0 10.4 11.1 10.4 10.8
3 3 3 4 3 4 4

4 Viktoria VOLCHKOVA RUS 1.6 5.3 5.3 5.4 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.4
5.3 5.4 5.5 5.2 5.4 5.2 5.3
10.6 10.7 10.9 10.6 10.6 10.4 10.7
4 4 4 3 4 5 5

5 Angela NIKODINOV USA 2.0 5.2 5.4 5.2 4.6 4.8 5.1 5.3
5.2 5.3 5.0 4.7 4.7 5.5 5.5
10.4 10.7 10.2 9.3 9.5 10.6 10.8
5 5 7 7 6 3 3

Good showing for the USA ladies<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP--> Goo MK in the short and long!

AYS
March 29th, 2000, 01:03 AM
For some reason it won't let me edit that. Make that *Go* MK, not goo MK<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :O --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":O"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP-->

Naomi
March 29th, 2000, 01:12 AM
This just proves that if Michelle lands her technical elements she can clearly fend off her competitors. She won in the judges marks for artistic merit. She's definitely got the ability, she's jsut got to get tough out there!! By the way, it really helps to watch Cherie's best of MK tape while waiting for the internet results. I was watching all night, and feeling all aglow over the past and current successes that Michelle has enjoyed. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh........She will forever be a champion.

Good luck in the Short Program Michelle!!!

Sandy
March 29th, 2000, 01:26 AM
Here are the final results for Group B. I'm wishing Michelle the best of luck for her short or long. Win or lose i just hope that she have fun out there <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP--> . GO MICHELLE AND SARAH AND ANGELA AND MAKE THE USA PROUD!!!!

1 Irina SLUTSKAYA RUS 0.4 1
2 Michelle KWAN USA 0.8 2
3 Sarah HUGHES USA 1.2 3
4 Viktoria VOLCHKOVA RUS 1.6 4
5 Angela NIKODINOV USA 2.0 5
6 Jennifer ROBINSON CAN 2.4 6
7 Vanessa GUSMEROLI FRA 2.8 7
8 Yoshie ONDA JPN 3.2 8
9 Sabina WOJTALA POL 3.6 9
10 Silvia FONTANA ITA 4.0 10
11 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 4.4 11
12 Ivana JAKUPCEVIC CRO 4.8 12
13 Siyin SUN CHN 5.2 13
14 Julia LEBEDEVA ARM 5.6 14
15 Marion KRIJGSMAN NED 6.0 15
16 Mojca KOPAC SLO 6.4 16
17 Olga VASSILIEVA EST 6.8 17
18 Anna WENZEL AUT 7.2 18
19 Tamsin SEAR GBR 7.6 19
20 Nicole SKODA SUI 8.0 20
21 Marta ANDRADE ESP 8.4 21
22 Young-Eun CHOI KOR 8.8 22
23 Helena PAJOVIC YUG 9.2 23

Valerie
March 29th, 2000, 01:27 AM
I don't remember (well I do) the last time Michelle had such a close competition. It is a delight to see Irina skating so well. There is always the possibility that Michelle made an error; however, also keep in mind that the judges knew Irina was skating directly after Michelle. It was definitely close, with the split votes. If Michelle is the Michelle Kwan we know, she will not back down--"it isn't over until it's over", "and even when it's over, it's not really". So, let's look forward to seeing Michelle, Irina, Maria, Sarah, and the rest of the ladies skate their best in the short program on Friday. It will be very interesting to see who the judges will vote for if both Michelle and Irina are clean but with Michelle's new triple flip as her solo jump. Good luck in the draw Michelle!

"I sought the Lord, and He heard me, and delivered me from all my fears." Psalm 34:4

Valerie
March 29th, 2000, 01:44 AM
I also wanted to say that from the marks, I don't believe that either Michelle or Irina completed the triple/triple combinations; does anyone know?

Kara
March 29th, 2000, 01:53 AM
I don't know. I think they probably did pretty well, but I bet no 3/3's from MK or IS, and I bet MK fell...on the loop. Complete guess. This is great for the US, but I'm so focused on Michelle, I almost don't care. (I'm surprised at that, BTW.) She can do it, though, in the sp and lp...GO MK<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP--> !

kwantasy
March 29th, 2000, 01:58 AM
Oh NOOOO!! It's the end of the world! Goodbye everyone! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP--> No just kidding. Anyway, I'm not too disappointed because it's only the qualifying round. Anyway, they are going to add 2 more judges for the next two rounds. I wish good luck to Michelle in the draw. And this is the last time I'm going to look at ladies spoilers. Good luck, Michelle! It was so close between you and Irina! I KNOW that if you land your jumps, you can and probably will win!! Go Michelle!

DianeO
March 29th, 2000, 02:22 AM
It looks like Michelle must have skated pretty well though. This could be one of those cases where skate order had something to do with it, but I guess we'll have to wait for a report or an article to find out. This is an AWESOME showing for the US!!! GO MICHELLE, SARAH, and ANGELA in the SP!!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP-->

Googoo
March 29th, 2000, 02:37 AM
Thank goodness! When I went to check spoilers I was just hoping that MK would be at least in 2nd place! This is still good I think right? What does she have to do to end up in first place in the end? Can she say be 2nd in the SP but win the LP (I know winning the LP is hugely important)
I had a dream last night that she was in second place after the qualifier, behind Irina. I'm happy for Sarah as well!

devoted2mk
March 29th, 2000, 02:49 AM
I personally feel great about where Michelle is in the standings. She seems to have skated well enough to gain the confidence she needs, and to be in 2nd is probably more motivating for MK. She is the ultimate fighter!!! I believe she is where she needs to be. IS is feeling the pressure now - esp. w/ MK beating her artistically. GO MICHELLE. WE BELIEVE YOU CAN DO IT!!!

Terri
March 29th, 2000, 03:02 AM
I'm relieved that she's in the top 2, that's all she needs at this point. She can pull out the stops later.

skateguru
March 29th, 2000, 04:20 AM
second place is not bad at all. I still have a good feeling about Kwan's chances. I had a dream last night about Kwan skating to the Red Violin and from what I remembered, she seemed happy. I woke before the results were announced. Who knows, maybe it's a good sign.
I believe Michelle is in a good position now. More than likely, she will come from behind and surprise everyone. All the pressure is on the Russian women. I like Irina but I'm focus on Michelle doing well.
GO FOR THE GOLD MK!

Jackylutz
March 29th, 2000, 04:35 AM
I think Michelle is good at being 2nd place. Now she will ATTACK ONLY, AND GIVES HER BEST.

GO SARAH AND ANGELA!!!!!!!!!!!

GO MICHELLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jackylutz
March 29th, 2000, 04:50 AM
Opps...sorry, I left out something...... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP-->

NOW, THE PRESSURE IS REALLY ON IRINA, AND NOT MICHELLE.
However, it sounds like Michelle did a clean program according to another thread. Hm.....I cant wait.

GO MICHELLE!!!!!!!!!!!

"WE(USA) WILL WE WILL ROCK YOU(WORLD)!!!!!!!" <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP-->

AYS
March 29th, 2000, 05:01 AM
If Michelle placed 2nd in the short to Irina and wins the long, she would still win: .8+1.2+1=3 compared with a possible .4+.6+2=3 for Irina (with the lp being the tiebreaker). Should she win the short over a second place Irina, she would still need to beat Irina in the lp.

Di75
March 29th, 2000, 05:49 AM
I think 2nd is a great position for her. Honest to God, I had a dream last night that I saw the results on this board and Michelle came in second--second to Maria B! (I know she's not in this group). It's crazy how everyone is dreaming about her skating. Anyway, I know she'll do just fine.

MKBeliever
March 29th, 2000, 06:07 AM
Michelle did skate very well....two minor mistakes.

The 3t/3t was a 3t/2t and she doubled her salchow. She must have landed her loop....that is great news!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP-->

Let's pray that she pulls out all the stops for the next two rounds!!!!!!!!

Go Michelle!!!!!!!!!!

SJB
March 29th, 2000, 06:07 AM
Assuming that Michelle & Irina take the two top spots in the SP, it all comes down to the LP. Sigh, this is beginning to remind me of the GPF, in which way too many of the final results were already set in stone after the first round of competition.

AYS, I *could not agree with you more* with your comments (at FSW) on the unfairness, especially to skaters such as Sarah, Vanessa, Viktoria, etc., of counting the qualifying groups towards the competition results. We must get rid of this soon---let's start a writing campaign, or something.

I mean, Vanessa is practically out of the medals before the competition has even really started! The old way, in which the qual. didn't count, she'd have qualified and be on the same level as MK, IS, MB, etc., ready to go into the SP and maybe pull off an upset.

What this does is decrease exponentially the possbility of exxcellent skaters upsetting the favorites. Just like the GPF, if you're not 1 or 2 in the Qualifying, you're at a tremendous disadvantage. And, of course, as Kelly's report notes, the inequality of the groups just increases this effect.

Yuk!

Rene
March 29th, 2000, 06:31 AM
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!
If they're going to make it count, THEN MAKE IT FAIR!!!!!
I think a writing campaign is a great idea. This is ridiculous. It makes it LESS exciting if only the top 2 are really in contention. Does the ISU make up rules just just because they can??? I've asked this before but don't remember if I got an answer, what is the reasoning behind the qualifying round counting?

sw10025
March 29th, 2000, 06:47 AM
OK, its not what we wanted and hoped for, but heck, this is still pretty good news. A lot of good skaters are basically out of gold medal contention if not medal contention altogether, and Michelle is not one of them. She skated a clean LP, which she hasn't done all season, she did her two lutzes, her flip and her loop (her most difficult single jumps), yes she failed to execute the 3-3 and she doubled her salchow, but otherwise it was a pretty good performance: Irina didn't do her 3-3s either and she didn't land any more triples than Michelle did. And Michelle's presentation marks were still higher, despite the minor errors.

If anything, the minor little errors will probably make Michelle a little mad at herself and motivate her, and remind her not to take anything, not even the simplest of jumps for granted.

Googoo
March 29th, 2000, 06:47 AM
Oh sounds like MK did very well! No falls thankfully!
I also dreamt that she skated to RV and did everything -- a 3/3 too but still came in second to Vanessa Gusmeroli or someone not very well-known like that lol. I don't know if it was the qualifier or the lp. Anyway MK looked really happy.

brandy00
March 29th, 2000, 09:00 AM
GO MICHELLE!!!! Our girl is going to attack at SP and LP!!! WOW, the USA girls did so good!!