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AYS
February 11th, 2000, 03:50 PM
. Sasha Cohen Orange County FSC 0.5 5.4 5.7 5.5 5.7 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.6 3 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 4 2. Sarah Hughes The SC of New York 1.0 5.3 5.6 5.7 5.7 5.6 5.6 5.4 5.6 5.7 5.4 5.5 5.9 5.9 5.7 5.6 5.6 5.8 5.6 4 2 1 1 2 2 4 2 1 3. Michelle Kwan Los Angeles FSC 1.5 5.4 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.8 5.8 5.9 5.8 1 3 3 4 3 3 3 3 2 4. Angela Nikodinov All Year FSC 2.0 5.5 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.5 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.6 5.5 5.5 5.4 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.6 5.5 5.5 2 4 4 3 4 4 2 4 3 5. Naomi Nari Nam All Year FSC 2.5 5.0 5.1 4.8 5.2 4.5 5.3 5.3 5.1 5.2 5.6 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.3 5.4 5.6 5.4 5.6 5 5 8 6 5 5 5 7 5

Karin
February 11th, 2000, 03:56 PM
MK got a 1st place even after a fall??? HEY HEY...that Kwan-spiral is worth as much as a 3lutz!!! BUT that is really varied ordinals there!!! Look at the contrast between the 1st and last judge!!!

Rene
February 11th, 2000, 03:59 PM
I know this doesn't matter but, if they deducted .4 for a fall that means some judges only thought her program was a 5.7, aren't they supposed to count ALL the elements? That base mark should be 5.8 IMO. Do only the triples count? Anyway, I know if doesn't really matter.

SkateFan007
February 11th, 2000, 04:05 PM
These marks are ridiculous. It makes me wish I could stay up and watch the short program tonight for myself:-(

Karin
February 11th, 2000, 04:07 PM
Look at the presentation marks!!! 1st Irina...now look how close the presentation marks are for SC, SH, and MK... MK canNOT just rely on her presentation anymore!!! I'm telling ya...MK is so well known as the artist...the best artist... that it may not be as effective for some viewers anymore!!! (for example my boyfriend!!! grrrr)... Rene...in comparison to others...I do think the base mark should be 5.7...keep in mind that MK's spins are relatively slow compared to SH, SC, and some others!!! But hey I still say the Kwan-spiral is always the highlight!!!

Rene
February 11th, 2000, 04:10 PM
I think all of her elements except the Layback are superior. Not gushing, I really do

Karin
February 11th, 2000, 04:23 PM
If SC's highest tech mark was 5.7 and she skated clean... AND MK had a 0.4 deduction...then with MK's 5.3...her base mark was at least a 5.7!!! I'm sure the other elements came into play!!!

kwanette
February 11th, 2000, 04:35 PM
isn't seeing close presentation marks? Sarah's were all over the place......MK's were rather consistent. I don't think a 5.7 vs. a 5.8 is all that close......it can make or break a champion....am I making sense???????

Rene
February 11th, 2000, 06:12 PM
yes, you're making sense. No offense and I like Sarah, but I'm sorry, I don't see a 5.9 for presentation. No way.

Rene
February 11th, 2000, 06:17 PM
I also don't understand why Sarah's presentation marks are stronger than Angela's. Angela's programs and positions are always very nice and she skated clean. Why does Sarah look awkward to me, even when she lands a nice jump? I think she adorable and very likable but I think Sasha deserved to be in 1st.

kwanette
February 11th, 2000, 06:29 PM
I loved Sarah's music, hated her dress, why does peggy refer to her as elegant? Princess Grace and Jackie Kennedy were elegant...I like Sarah...as a teacher, she is the kind of kid who would be a pleasure to have in class...but...not elegant.....good, hard-working........

Rene
February 11th, 2000, 06:52 PM
exactly, she MAY become elegant and she certainly is accomplished for her age. But it just seems...I don't know, awkward, unpolished, her transitions are choppy or something, I don't know what I'm trying to say.

Beth2000
February 11th, 2000, 07:04 PM
Rene you have to remember that Angela skated first, so the judges held the marks down. It isn't fair but at the sametime they have to hold down the marks for the first skater b/c you still have all the other skaters still to skate. Does this make sense? It is late and I am tired and still in shock!

Googoo
February 11th, 2000, 07:27 PM
Well it looks like MK's presentation marks were the most consistent. They were the highest too right? SH and SC's lowest pres marks were 5.4. For MK it was 5.7.