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Armchairskater
February 25th, 2000, 04:53 AM
Here are the top 8 ladies (Final Results):

1. Angela Nikodinov
2. Stacey Pensgen
3. Annie Bellemare
4. Fumie Suguri
5. Yoshie Onda
6. Jennifer Robinson
7. Tatyana Malinina
8. Andrea Gardiner

Yoshie Onda (10th in the short)seems to have been the surprise of the free skate, posting strong technical marks, which gave her 3rd in the free skate narrowly over Bellemare and mixed up the ordinals for all the top ladies. Angela N. apparently did not repeat her Nationals performance of imploding at the end, taking the majority of the 1st place ordinals plus some 3rd and 4th place ordinals (strangely, no seconds in there). Pensgen picked up 2 first place ordinals plus the lion's share of 2nd place ordinals. Bellemare and Onda took one first place ordinal a piece. Looking at the marks, the top several ladies all must have skated decently. Malinina must have really self-destructed out there, however, to receive the technical marks she did, which ranged from 4.3-4.8.

Original dance top six (also represents overall standings):

1. Lang and Tchernyshev
2. Dubreuil and Lauzon
3. Wing and Lowe
4. Silverstein and Pekarek
5. Handra and Sinek
6. Piche and Denis

Jamie and Justin appear to have made a major mistake with some of their technical marks dipping below 5.0. Hopefully their free dance will be clean and pull them back up to third.

lavender
February 25th, 2000, 05:15 AM
Isn't this the finals for the pairs?

What is going on with malinina? She use to be a pretty good skater.

Zhenya
February 25th, 2000, 06:22 AM
I don't normally post on this board, but I have to address this Tatyana thing..

She is STILL a good skater! She has a torn groin and had surgery on her foot a month ago! She could have easily used either of these injuries as an excuse to withdraw from the event because they are MAJOR, but she didn't. She is skating through excrusiating pain and I have never ONCE heard her complain about it, even to me! In fact, she didn't take ANY time off for either of the injuries. When the doctors told her to stay off the ice because of her groin injury, she was back on the ice the next day. I wish she would take time off for her own health, but this shows what kind of person she is. She is is more courageous, determined and stronger than any of you would ever know. I just wish you could know how wonderful and sweet of a person that she is. I could tell you stories about her, things that have happened to her that would make you cry, but she uses none of these as excuses. Just imagine your coach dying unexpectedly and being left alone with only your (now) husband to deal with all things to do with your skating? I commend her for that.

Zhenya, webmaster of her *official* website, Malinina Magic
www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Park/6662/tatiana.html
(http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Park/6662/tatiana.html
)
If any of you want to send her your well wishes, just sign the guestbook or send an email to the site email address

Karin
February 25th, 2000, 07:23 AM
I am so happy Dubreuil & Lauzon and Wing & Lowe got on the podium!!!...go Canada!!!

Jennifer Robinson...I heard she was having problem with her loop jump...I wonder what happened!!!

sw10025
February 25th, 2000, 07:30 AM
Zhenya, please don't get upset by Lavender's question. I really don't think lavender was trying to imply that Tatiana was no longer a good skater -- I think her question was out of concern, for why a formerly very consistent skater was ending up much lower than we all would have anticipated. I would have expected her to blow away this ladies field with little if any problem. I knew about the groin injury, but given that she was still skating, I assumed it was minor and had basically healed, but I don't think any of us knew about the foot surgery. I hope she can recover in time for worlds. She must be very brave to skate under those conditions.

Zhenya
February 25th, 2000, 07:58 AM
Sorry if I came off strongly, just in bad mood LOL The groin injury is serious, it is just that she chose to ignore it and keep on skating. She was lucky to have been able to pull those skates off in the condition that she was in. For example, I said the doctors told her to stay off the ice, but I didn't mention that they said 3+ weeks. I wish she would have followed the doctor's orders<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":(">

Armchairskater
February 25th, 2000, 08:21 AM
Zhenya,
Please don't think that I intended any bash of Tatyana either. I was just drawing out for those members of the board coming here first for results those aspects of the placements and marks which seemed most noteworthy and Tatyana getting marks in the 4s was noteworthy, because we do think of her as much better than that. I had heard something about an injury this season on FSW, but didn't know the details, so I didn't offer any speculation as to what accounted for the poor performance. When a good skater performs well below expectations, one generally assumes there are physical or psychological factors involved that inhibit the skater from giving the sort of performance of which they are capable. Most of us have favorite skaters who have "self-destructed" on the ice as I phrased it, perhaps too bluntly, during individual competitions or seasons in their careers when they were combatting injuries or personal losses, so please don't interpret an adjective applied to an individual performance to reflect an opinion of the overall quality and worthiness of the skater.

I am glad to hear that Tatyana is a nice person and dedicated to her sport. I wish she would give herself time to rest and heal. I am sorry to hear of all the things she is going through. I wish only the best to her in her skating, marriage, and personal life and hope that she will reap all the rewards she deserves. I think she is lucky to have a friend like yourself to stick up for her, but in your zeal to defend her please don't assume malice when people naturally wonder "Wow!
What happened?" We appreciate knowing the truth, however, and please come back and let us know how things progress with Tatyana.

Zhenya
February 25th, 2000, 08:31 AM
armchair-it wasn't you who I was responding to<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> It is fine to wonder what happened. Just misinterpreted Lavender's statement<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> I am a little testy today to say the least, but it will pass soon.

lavender
February 25th, 2000, 09:18 AM
I was only concern about malinina. I was going to come and post right away because I did eventually searched around and found out that malinina is very hurt but I didn't think that I would garner such a response. I guest that I should have posted it right away. I never thought that she wasn't good any longer because talent like just doesn't go away even if you have an off season. I knew it was something. I just didn't know what.

Thanks sw10025 for taking up for me.

It is becoming to stressful to post here as of late. This is not intended towards mkfans.

Zhenya
February 25th, 2000, 09:51 AM
I am sorry LAVENDER<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> I just misinterpreted your statement PLUS on anothe rboard people were making fun of her and I was at wits end. I know now that you said what you said with good intentions. I hope you can forgive me<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":(">

lavender
February 25th, 2000, 11:01 AM
I forgive you. I didn't know what I had done. I hasn't been a good day for me anything I this point would probably get me down so I understand your day. It is depressing to see so many bashing your fav skater. After going around and reading a lot of mean post I have become even more sensitive about other skaters. I believe in constructive criticism but some of the things just aren't necessary. I'm only a big fan of michelles but I have found myself taking up for tara, oksana and even maria for various reasons. I still recognize their greatness. I may not be a fan and I may not like some of the things they have done but I still like to see them skate.

I have to admit that was shocked to see her placement. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I think that she is the better skater of them all even though I'm glad that angela won. She's been going through a lot this season so I can't imagine what they could be saying about her. I know your feeling bad too because she is going through some bad times. I know that I would.

I'm glad you realize that I was only concern for her.
see ya

Beth2000
February 25th, 2000, 11:38 AM
If she doesn't take time off like she should couldn't that injury be very dangerous for her? That is the one thing that I don't like to see is ANY skater get hurt. Okay there are times you sit there and root for them to fall but not to get seriously injured. I am sorry to hear about your favorite skater.

Rene
February 25th, 2000, 02:08 PM
For the life of me I don't understand why skaters still compete with a devastating injury like Malaninia's. If it were the Olympics, maybe. She should get herself healthy and in shape for next and the Olympic season. She could get on the podium, who knows?
Although I am not a fan of her skating(although I LOVE her Lutz) I've always liked her and rooted for her. I have never heard anyone on this board say anything negative about her personally, she seems very nice. Just stay away from those "anti" posts. There are alot of people who like her, so don't feel so bad about it. That's why I haven't been to FSW much since the Nationals. Puts me in a bad mood!

Beth2000
February 25th, 2000, 02:59 PM
Rene ITA with ya about FSW! I haven't been over there in a while. It sends my bp up,up,up! Can't handle that place.

SJB
February 26th, 2000, 08:28 AM
I wish all good luck to Tatiana, I really enjoy her skating (when the TV networks *allow* me to see it!), and I think she's really in contention for medalling at Worlds, with the quality she has got. But, I also say, please don't push too much and intensify injuries! I know that these decisions are difficult to make, especially for us fans who don't really know the situation.

Zhenya, please tell Tatiana 1) that I really enjoy her skating, and would love to see her at Worlds, 2) that I hope she recovers quickly and completely from all injuries, 3) please to be careful, and not push herself too much!, and 4) I wish her the best in all other aspects of her life too.

Thanks.