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iloveskating
March 18th, 2000, 03:00 PM
what did you all think? I was pleasantly surprized by the overall level of skating. Some of them seemed more expressive and more consistent than some of the senior skaters. We have a lot to look forward to. Maybe MK's influence on artistry and presentation is even reaching down into these ranks.

Karin
March 18th, 2000, 03:25 PM
I think MK does have a big part to do with it...MK is very special!!! :-)

ChicaRealidad
March 18th, 2000, 07:14 PM
ITA that the quality of skating was much better than I was expecting. One thing I noticed after the ladies competition was over was that even if Sasha Cohen had placed higher in the SP, she still wouldn't have won a medal. Although I'm not a big fan of skaters who are touted mainly for the jumping prowess, I think that Cohen would've lost to Jennifer Kirk because of her poor jump technique (and landings); and would've also placed lower than Deanne Stellato, who I thought was better artistically than Sasha.

The other thing I noticed is that although I see the influence of Michelle's skating in both Kirk and Stellato, they're trying very hard to develop their own style and don't seem to have that insatiable drive to be The Next Michelle Kwan that way NNN, Hughes and Cohen do.

maryada
March 18th, 2000, 09:31 PM
Chicarealidad--I totally agree.(I've been with you all along on this subject.) Both of these girls have basically developed their own style already. I particularly enjoyed Jennifer Kirk's performance in the long program and didn't see anything there but her 'own' unique style. It was delightful, and refreshing.

marlana
March 19th, 2000, 02:53 AM
I missed the event. Was going to tape it and completely forgot. Too many kids in the house. Anyway it's nice to hear that they have their own style. I was wondering about that.

taf2
March 19th, 2000, 07:06 AM
I really enjoyed the ladies coverage-wish they had shown more of the other disciplines. Jenny's skating doesn't have a lot of power yet, but she looks promising for 2006, if she can get thru puberty without losing her jumps. I was less impressed by Deanna. There was talk that if she had landed that last triple sal, she might have won, but I disagree. There's something about her that just looks wrong to me about her on the ice. Her jumps look a little corkscrewed to me, and she doesn't have a skater's body (not her fault, but she's long-waisted), so her positions aren't pleasing to me. She does have a smoothness that the other girls didn't have, but she is 16-she really didn't look like she belonged at Jr. Worlds. Neither did the top 3 men. I think they should have a rule that once you've skated at a top international Sr comp like Europeans or Sr Worlds, or any Sr GP, you can't go to Jr Worlds. Victor Restencourt was especially out of place there.

TripleLutz
March 19th, 2000, 08:48 AM
Actually, I thought Sasha Cohen placed 5th in the free skate because she was so far back after the short program and because she skated earlier, the judges were saving higher marks for the last 6 skaters.

When I saw the skating yesterday, I was very impressed by Sarah Meier, she skated my favorite performance of the night! I was shocked that the judges scored Sarah Meier so low though. All this time, I thought she was a very technically limited skater like her countrywoman Lucinda Ruh, but she was actually the only lady the "Lifetime" showed that did a LUTZ if I'm not mistaken. She had very strong triples, skating, and some very nice spinning and she looked very mature for a junior skater, too bad she won't be going to Senior Worlds. :(

kwanette
March 19th, 2000, 09:15 AM
I still think Sasha is the artist of the three. Stellato did nothing for me.....Kirk is pleasant and seems to have her own emeging style. She doesn't remind me anything of Tara..as the commentators said. Tara had a presence even at the age of 11 or 12.The men were...sorry...horrible. Come back Todd! Go Takeshi!

COMPROF
March 19th, 2000, 10:45 AM
Am I the only one who still thinks the announcers have done an injustice to the general audience by failing to explain the weaknesses and technical flaws in Cohen's skating? By the way, after watching her several times it occured to me that if Sasha were skating for Russia she would swiftly have been steered into pairs skating because of her size, flexibility, etc. These are all things that are highly valued in pairs skating and IMHO she might flourish better in as a pairs partner because she wouldn't be required to do all of the jumps and a male skating partner could show off and use her strengths to their maximum potential.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP-->

iloveskating
March 19th, 2000, 12:06 PM
Chicarealidad-I agree with you &like what you said about developing their own style. Remember back in 95 when lori asked mk what her style was/what she liked? mk said she didn't know. so she & lori spent hours playing different music and mk skating around to it till she found stuff she really connected with. that was how she came up with salome &romanza for 95-96 year. more coaches/choreog. should do that with young skaters. Of course, the skater needs a sense of musicality to do this, or they would just skate the same to every type of music, the music would simply be the backdrop, not the driving force of the program. That's the difference between mk & so many many others.

comprof-you make a good point about sc. she could make a great pair skater, tamara moskvina style! ITA with your comments about the commentators too.

MichelleFANnumber1
March 19th, 2000, 02:42 PM
What I cant understand, is Sasha's jumps. Her lutz is a major FLUTZ, i think the worst ive ever seen. Shes doing 2 3flips in her short program! Her 3salchow is sooo shakey. She puts her foot down on the landing, is that cheating? Im not meaning to bash, but she doesnt have good jumping tech. I really do like her alot though.

I really thought that Sarah Meir did great too. She is soooo cute, if only she was 14.... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON STOP-->

GOOD LUCK AT WORLDS 2000 MICHELLE---WE LOVE YOU!!!

sw10025
March 19th, 2000, 05:00 PM
Actually, COMPROF, given how many talented young ladies of the right age will be vying for so few spots on the US team in the next couple of years, you may see your feeling come true and one or two of them might turn to pairs just to get to worlds...